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#4280970 - 07/22/16 06:34 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4281200 - 07/23/16 02:12 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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AMD Expects Limited Zen CPU Shipments in Q4 2016 – Full Volume Launch in Q1 2017

The AMD Zen based FX processors are highly anticipated by enthusiasts and gamers around the globe as these chips will bring the performance of CPU on par with Intel’s latest processors at very affordable rates...

"We have been very focused on the server launch for first half of 2017. Desktop should launch before that. In terms of true volume ability, I believe it will be in the first quarter of 2017. We may ship some limited volume towards the end of the fourth quarter, based on how bring up goes and the customer readiness." Lisa Su, AMD CEO via AMD


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#4281214 - 07/23/16 03:14 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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IM hearing October from a bunch of review guys.


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#4281381 - 07/24/16 01:36 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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October - I wish! My old Phenom II is barely carrying today's load. I'm hoping some OC'ing and a new RX 480 will squeeze out some descent performance for a little longer, but I know VR is out of the question until I get a Zen running. smile

#4282084 - 07/26/16 02:17 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I wanna Polaris-Pro GPU w/ a 1TB SSD on it :-(

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#4282249 - 07/26/16 11:04 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Nintendo Finally Confirms they went Green Team,

Doesn't Affect AMD's Masterplan, as it's in the ARM Division,

Games Developed for NX will not port to x86, and most of the time games developed for Nintendo never port to other consoles.


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#4282260 - 07/27/16 12:35 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I would not be surprised if Nvidia "made them an offer they could not refuse" to get a chunk of the console business. Parenthetically, that's what Intel did early in this Century when AMD had the better CPU -- Intel "bought" the market.

If Nvidia were shut out of consoles, it would look bad for Nvidia's brand.

We'll see how well Nvidia's total package turns out. Their GPUs are first rate. But, the CPU side of the war has been a losing battle for them (in tablets, phones), so far. And, I have an Nvidia powered high-end tablet -- first hand experience that says -- buy AMD if you need a CPU/GPU (APU) solution.

However, they might do it right this time.

Competition is good smile


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#4282388 - 07/27/16 02:29 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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the NX will be a Portable Console, so No Where near the power of Xbox One, Xbox Scorpio, PS4, PS4K, etc.


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#4283696 - 08/01/16 10:20 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Rumoring that Intel to have 10nm parts in 2017 to replace current 14nm high end parts. 10nm costs less per transistor.

Also, rumoring that 7nm may be the "wall" and possibly nothing significantly smaller will be practical. I personally was "guessing" 3 to 4nm as the final wall that will not be breached.

The "wall" means no more dramatically significant "per core" improvements in CPUs.

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Cannonlake processors on track as Intel starts up 10nm factory

... The company will be starting up the 10nm factory this quarter..should enter into trial production later this year and should be able to ramp up to volume production by the end of 1H 2017.

..Intel managed to keep its node lead over other third party fabrication facilities like TSMC and Samsung.

..now the only major problem remains beating physics every time. At 7nm and below physics breaks down pretty quickly and quantum physics effects start becoming a serious problem...


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#4283707 - 08/01/16 11:26 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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by 2020, CPUs will stop getting smaller, and they will work on ways to stack the cores instead of shrinking them.


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#4283747 - 08/01/16 01:24 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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We'll have to switch from electricity to quarktricity or something to go smaller.



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#4286062 - 08/09/16 03:12 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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If you're interested in getting a RX-480, even a Partner AIB Solution,

Get the 4GB Version regardless,

the 8GB Versions of these cards use too much power, even when re-designed VRM Arrays are used.

the < 150w Number was for the 4 GB Versions, the 8 GB Versions use more power.

Also, the 8GB Models are pretty much pointless,


Example, I've worked with now 5 guys, that use RX480s because of PRICE:PERFORMANCE.

They all bought the 4GB Version, which was 8GB Versions re-flashed, (the 4GB Sticker on the 8 GB on Box and Card were dead givaways).

So we tested extensively.

with any game that used Texture Resolutions high enough to fill more than 5GB of the RAM.

The GPU itself didnt have the Umph to render the game efficiently w/ MSAA Cranked or Ultra high textures loaded into the frame buffers.

While having 8 GB is future proofing sort of...... The GPU itself dont have the umph to render games that would use all 8GB efficiently.

It's like attaching a Cargo Trailer to a Honda Civic.


If you want FSAA Cranked w/ Ultra hi Res Textures, shadows, AO etc get a GTX1070/80 or wait for the AMD Equiv this fall.

Depending on how long of a delay that is, I have been looking at ever falling AMD Fury/FuryX Card Prices... Droooling.. as I can Get a FuryX for $299 ($399 - $100 in Coupon Codes/MIR/Un-Used Credit)

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#4286114 - 08/09/16 06:34 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Agree -- and I own an RX-480 8GB. I'm not upset about it. Mine works fine.


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#4286125 - 08/09/16 07:19 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Flash it down to 4GB, Save Power Consumption/Heat and see no performance impact.


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#4286141 - 08/09/16 08:29 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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The 8GB situation sounds similar to the GTX 970 fiasco, where 4GB turned out to be 3GB fast and 1GB slow/useless memory, much ado about nothing, as it turns out the card kicked butt and I've never had any issues with that slow 1GB memory, so it really only mattered for the fanboy arguments and the class action lawsuit... I'll take the $30 refund though.


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Actually it's 3.5GB/.5GB, not 3/1, so the odds of you needing more than 3.5 but less than 4 (at which point it will slow down anyway) is fairly slim. Still, performance at 3.75 is better than at 4.25, it's a middle ground.

They could've easily just sold them as 3.5GB cards but it would've taken marketing effort to explain that to the uninitiated and that extra .5 as I mentioned does offer a benefit over being forced out to main RAM.



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#4286330 - 08/10/16 03:32 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Ah yeah that's right, hopefully the marketing guys learn a lesson, but I somehow doubt it.


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nVidia's issue was the memory controller on the GPU after they disabled SMs, didnt allow for straight access to the entire 4 GB Memory Array, so it was divided into 2 partitions w/ 3.5 being the main one with direct Access and the 2nd one accessible via alternate controller.

they shoulda just made it 3.5 gb, woulda saved them problems, users problems, lawyers problems, and saved them production money on removing 1 GDDR5 Chip from each PCB and the aforementioned extra controller.


AMD's issue is they slapped 8 GB on a Card that cant run games w/ texture or frame resolutions high enough to use that 8 GB.

Like I Said, it's like trying to attach a Cargo Trailer to a Honda Civic.

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#4286661 - 08/11/16 05:52 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Presumably, the first Zen CPU benchmark number has "leaked". This benchmark score is for an Engineering Sample. We don't know what the clock speed of the final version will be.

At the clocks shown, its competitive with Intel. However, the details of the tests are unknown. So, though encouraging to an AMD fan, only time will tell.



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