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#4274908 - 06/30/16 07:28 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Lausbub78]  
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Originally Posted By: Lausbub78
I guess sooner or later there will be no way around Windows 10,I just want to decide myself when I want to upgrade. I have no doubt Win10 has it's advantages, but I rather want to pay for it. I don't trust anything thats for "free".


I doubt it will be any more stable the moment they start charging for it. It's "free" because they need to consolidate their PC Operating System base into a single platform. I'm sure at some point we will be paying for "updates" or some such thing. Just like Office 365 is basically Office as a service, I suspect Windows 10 will eventually follow some similar route.


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#4274951 - 06/30/16 09:32 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
Just don't forget the freeware programs that turn off or uninstall the "consumer helper" tracking programs.
They work real easy. One-click.


Is there a particular one that you recommend?

#4274962 - 06/30/16 10:32 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Subscription eh PR?
That was one of the possible MS endgames mentioned months ago at some tech forum.
For whatever reason I think (or maybe hope) that the outcry would be so large and dramatic that something about the MS monopoly will finally be done. If there was a FUNCTIONAL alternative I would drop them like a live grenade.
As for me I would gladly pay top dollar for a viable Windows alternative just to go down screaming.

EDIT: Sorry I was so busy on my soapbox I forgot to answer sir!
I use DWS (Destroy Windows Spying) which is an easy one-click solution with plenty of options. Freeware at about 450kb in size.

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#4274987 - 07/01/16 12:39 AM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Thanks Duke.

#4275044 - 07/01/16 06:41 AM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: hoongadoonga]  
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Here's another one that works well:

https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

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#4275057 - 07/01/16 08:58 AM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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#4275190 - 07/01/16 05:41 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Thank you, RedToo.

#4275282 - 07/01/16 10:34 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Well, I upgraded to Win 10 today and then had to revert to Win 7. The Windows installation seemed to work fine but Nvidia wasn't happy. I couldn't get Nvidia's control panel to open so I tried to update the drivers. Every attempt failed - using GeForce Experience, going directly to Nvidia's website, using Driver Easy, installing express or clean - they all failed.

I'm happy with Win 7 anyway so I'll just wait until I start over with a new unit.

#4275316 - 07/02/16 01:32 AM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Interesting.
All other MS stuff aside the installation of W10 for me was quite painless and everything (programs and hardware) worked fine out the box.
I have a GTX 970 4GB card and multiple drivers worked great. What kind of card do you have?

#4275477 - 07/02/16 06:00 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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#4275509 - 07/02/16 07:36 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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New card then. Don't get it...

#4275993 - 07/05/16 02:28 AM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: Hellshade]  
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Agreed. It will become a revenue stream for them just like we pay for cable TV only to be subject to 5 minute long commercial breaks and perhaps 35-40minutes per hour of actual programming... banghead

And it's "free" because most people won't turn off the tracking, etc, and they'll have access to a treasure trove of data to sell.

But I'm prepping to do it, because with work, and stuff it's inevitable. Like Duke said, if there was any other way... But anyway, I bought a 960 GB SanDisk Ultra II today and am trying to figure out how to go about it. My 240 GB SSD was so small that I put all my user accounts (app data and all) on my spinning drive, I'm hoping I don't get headaches from that. It was tough, it was 4-1/2 years ago, and I forget how I did it!


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#4276596 - 07/06/16 07:58 PM Re: Microsoft is at it again - push of Win 10 update [Re: hoongadoonga]  
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Originally Posted By: hoongadoonga
Well, I upgraded to Win 10 today and then had to revert to Win 7. The Windows installation seemed to work fine but Nvidia wasn't happy. I couldn't get Nvidia's control panel to open so I tried to update the drivers. Every attempt failed - using GeForce Experience, going directly to Nvidia's website, using Driver Easy, installing express or clean - they all failed.

I'm happy with Win 7 anyway so I'll just wait until I start over with a new unit.


The weirdness continues..........

I reverted to Win 7 and everything seems to be normal. A new Nvidia driver came out today so I used GeForce Experience to download it. This time I chose custom installation and entered a check mark for "clean installation" . It did install the new driver but it didn't do a clean installation. None of my settings were changed and the control panel still shows the CFS3 profile.

Weird, but at least its not a problem (since I'm back on Win 7).

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