#4268950 - 06/10/16 07:00 PM
Ongoing popularity of scifi/fantasy shows
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Ok, so I decided to do a little experiment by looking up the number of people who have rated/voted on a specific scifi/fantasy tv show on IMDB. Perhaps this is a somewhat accurate reflection on how popular a show is?
Anyway, here is what I've found so far,
X-Files 145,218 Babylon 5 22,189 Battlestar Galactica (reboot) 118,871 Star Trek: TOS 48,754 Firefly 184,611 Star Trek: TNG 62,933 Fringe 175,689
and last but certainly not least,
Game of Thrones 979,381!!
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#4269983 - 06/14/16 01:29 PM
Re: Ongoing popularity of scifi/fantasy shows
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Current TV shows get the lion's share of votes when people visit those pages while watching it. Long expired series get far fewer visits.
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#4269984 - 06/14/16 01:33 PM
Re: Ongoing popularity of scifi/fantasy shows
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Current TV shows get the lion's share of votes when people visit those pages while watching it. Long expired series get far fewer visits.
The Jedi Master Yeah. The data is indeed skewed that way but it was still interesting to see the huge difference in votes even within currently running shows.
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#4271759 - 06/20/16 01:42 PM
Re: Ongoing popularity of scifi/fantasy shows
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Frankly that's because the general population doesn't want it.
Also, there are two types of SF: There's transplanted SF, where the story could quite easily be told on current day Earth, or even in a period of the past, but they just do it in the future/alien world/whatever instead, perhaps to slip past some people's notice or perhaps to draw a wider audience (it's Seven Samurai...but in space). I'd say most SF is this.
Then there's "true" SF that tells a story you couldn't really tell with the S part of SF. The morality of creating robots, a manufactured slave race. The impact of FTL travel on people who leave home and come back to find their family and friends have aged decades while they were gone a month. How someone behaves after suddenly receiving extraordinary powers due to whatever...do they surrender to their baser nature, or do they overcome it, or do they run from it? This is usually the better SF when it's done right, but it seems to be harder to do right so it's not even attempted as often.
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#4272187 - 06/21/16 11:47 PM
Re: Ongoing popularity of scifi/fantasy shows
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Frankly that's because the general population doesn't want it. I think they want it just as much as fantasy. You must remember that before The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, fantasy was laughed at. Popular fiction was noir, or hard boiled, and sometimes slices of horror, sprinkled with bits of tawdry gossip and small town happenings. And then you had your more mainstream literary works beyond that. But fantasy and sci-fi were a joke for the longest time. Tolkein changed that and through his words he laid the groundwork for the entire genre that exists today. We've had brilliant sci-fi authors but none of the works have ignited that spark--and I know the kindling is there. Finding that secret though, that's my challenge.
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#4272225 - 06/22/16 07:38 AM
Re: Ongoing popularity of scifi/fantasy shows
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Concerning scifi authors and books, I have the impression that we passed the peak quite a long time ago. Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein, Bradbury, Herbert.
Which scifi authors of today have reached anywhere near the acclaim of any of those that I listed? Largely also because there was a much smaller pool of SciFi writers back then. And because of the writers of the 40s through 70s youmentioned kept writing, stayed in the eye of the public. But there are some really good SciFi writers today - Kim Stanley Robinson, Peter F. Hamilton, John Scalzi to name but a few - but much more 'fluff' around them. Or good writers that (so far) didn't do too much - like Andy Weir.
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#4272262 - 06/22/16 12:33 PM
Re: Ongoing popularity of scifi/fantasy shows
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Frankly that's because the general population doesn't want it. I think they want it just as much as fantasy. You must remember that before The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, fantasy was laughed at. Popular fiction was noir, or hard boiled, and sometimes slices of horror, sprinkled with bits of tawdry gossip and small town happenings. And then you had your more mainstream literary works beyond that. But fantasy and sci-fi were a joke for the longest time. Tolkein changed that and through his words he laid the groundwork for the entire genre that exists today. We've had brilliant sci-fi authors but none of the works have ignited that spark--and I know the kindling is there. Finding that secret though, that's my challenge. You're mixing literature with tv/film/games. I agree the desire for SF writing is there, but ratings and box office for SF video indicates people are NOT lining up for it. In this site, in this very forum, there are tons of dismissive "I'm not going to bother because X" posts littered for every upcoming SF TV series or film. They're always different, the only common thread between them is offhand rejection. This one wants harder SF, that one wants it closer to the source material, the other wants it darker (because apparently SF that's not dark is automatically cheesy), and so on. You should probably qualify your statement as "people want the specific type of SF they like, not something that misses the mark by even an inch, as much as fantasy." The poor showing of Warcraft in the US combined with its phenomenal returns overseas proves that even fantasy is very much variable. The Jedi Master
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#4272337 - 06/22/16 06:45 PM
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Short of enough diehard nerds turning out for it (and leaving their PCs for 10 minutes )who the heck wants to see a Warcraft movie when there's so many other interesting fantasy films around? Even the trailers looked poor compared to other recent ones, and that's bad.
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#4272457 - 06/23/16 01:54 AM
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Plus, not too much advertising for WoW - far less than for Zootopia, for example.
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