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#4261385 - 05/18/16 12:28 PM Nvidia GTX 1070/1080  
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After two years great service my pair of trusty 6GB 780s are living on borrowed time. The performance of the 1080 in benchmarks leaves no doubt that it is - as promised - a beast.

Having said that, at the moment I'm very undecided on what my new hardware will be and am certainly not diving in straight away for a premium-priced 'founders edition' card. I have little doubt that while a 1080 would be more powerful that my current SLI setup and have the benefits and simplicity of a single card solution, it won't be a huge improvement in overall performance (20-30% maybe?). While running anything at 2560x1440 would certainly be a breeze, stepping up to 7680x1440 (30% more pixels than 4k) will be a struggle even for some of last year's games.

My current thinking is that 1070 SLI might be the way to go. After two years with the 780s I'm fully aware of driver issues and how much of a pain in the arse than can be, but when it works the benefits are huge. For the time being I'm happy to wait for benchmarks and consider the options.

The only other thing I'm reasonably certain of at the moment is that 1080 SLI would be a) silly expensive and b) complete overkill. However that doesn't rule out the possibility of buying one and adding a second if necessary. Or just having a sudden rush of blood...


Anyone else tempted?

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#4261406 - 05/18/16 01:44 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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I have a 970 that's working fine for me at 1080p. Depending on the 1070's stats I might upgrade to it end of this year/early next, but I never spend for the 80 series and I don't do SLI either. I find it easier (and a LOT cheaper) to stick with 1080p. smile



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#4261650 - 05/19/16 07:39 AM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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IMHO, a skylake/980 Ti/1440p gives a very good gaming experience on recent titles. If I decide to get a 1080, it will be because I upgrade my monitor to two or three 4k g-syncs and want to maintain the same eyecandy as I am currently enjoying.

#4261729 - 05/19/16 02:32 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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the "Non Founders Edition" will have parts of the VRM and Power Array Removed, thus limiting overclocking headroom.


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#4262010 - 05/20/16 11:08 AM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted By: OldHat
IMHO, a skylake/980 Ti/1440p gives a very good gaming experience on recent titles. If I decide to get a 1080, it will be because I upgrade my monitor to two or three 4k g-syncs and want to maintain the same eyecandy as I am currently enjoying.


Absolutely, but I don't think the 1080 is really aimed at a potential upgrade for someone with a 980Ti anyway....it's a big layout of cash for only 10-30% increase in framerate.

The 1070 will be interesting, although the specs have been released we haven't seen any real benchmarks yet but the price point and assumed performance pretty much makes everything below the 980Ti obsolete that fall into the same price bracket.

The Polaris will be interesting as it looks to be the 1070/980TI competition......I don't favour any particular brand and usually opt for the best bang for buck, the only problem with that in recent years has been that the 390/X which was a great card was getting battered by a weaker Nvidia card and had strangely weak framerates in certain titles. It's the one thing that gives me a concern looking forward with Nvidia offering the reliability of minimum framerates in all games and not just a select few. AMD cards were also crap with the Oculus DK2 in some games but I assume drivers have fixed that for the retail Oculus.


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#4262076 - 05/20/16 03:03 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: OldHat]  
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Some of the initial reviews I saw from Digital Foundry show that a single 1080 performs as fast as two 980 SLI'ed, so I will hope the 1070 will have a similar level of performance improvements.

My 970 is working fine for me at 1080p but I wouldn't mind some more oomph for surround mode (5760x1080).

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IMHO, a skylake/980 Ti/1440p gives a very good gaming experience on recent titles. If I decide to get a 1080, it will be because I upgrade my monitor to two or three 4k g-syncs and want to maintain the same eyecandy as I am currently enjoying.


FYI I have 3 monitors but only my center monitor is g-sync, and it works fine in surround mode, g-sync is applied to the center one while the side ones function as non g-sync.

Just in case you thought you had to upgrade all 3 monitors to g-sync at once to have it function, you can upgrade them independently, the nvidia surround driver is smart enough to only apply g-sync to the monitor(s) that support it.


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#4262082 - 05/20/16 03:24 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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Yeah, I currently have a GTX 970 but game at 1440p so I'm on the limits of maxing out a lot of games and maintaining a decent framerate.

I've been waiting for the 1080 and it looks like the card I'll probably opt for as I have an Oculus due for delivery at the end of June too. It doesn't look like Polaris will challenge the top tier cards and if the 1070 is on par with the 980TI it makes it a difficult choice....do I go for the extra headroom that a 1080 will provide or get the cheaper option of 1070 or Polaris which will already be getting stretched the minute I buy it.

The reviews and benchmarks will help but it looks like the 1080 is more likely the best suit.


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#4262132 - 05/20/16 05:46 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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The rumors indicate the initial AMD Polaris 10 models are deliberately not aimed at the "high end". Rather, AMD is trying to hit a "price point".

So, a person who wants Nvidia 1080 performance in a single card will have to buy a 1080 (the competing AMD card is now rumored for October). Of course, we won't know for sure until we see the AMD Polaris test reports.

Objectively, the Nvidia 1080 price does not look bad for the performance. I would not greatly mind paying it. However, as an AMD fan, I'll wait for the AMD card that looks right for me (based on test results).

Apparently, there is a 1060 card on the way to compete with Polaris -- or so the rumors say today.


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#4262188 - 05/20/16 09:04 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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Thing is... will the 1060 be a smaller die or a laser cut GP104?


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#4262339 - 05/21/16 10:38 AM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: kludger]  
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Originally Posted By: kludger
FYI I have 3 monitors but only my center monitor is g-sync, and it works fine in surround mode, g-sync is applied to the center one while the side ones function as non g-sync.

Just in case you thought you had to upgrade all 3 monitors to g-sync at once to have it function, you can upgrade them independently, the nvidia surround driver is smart enough to only apply g-sync to the monitor(s) that support it.

That's good info, thanks.

My three Dell U2711s are getting on a bit (two were second hand) and each one is starting to have issues of one variety or another. Cost of replacing all of them with three new 27" 2560x1440 monitors was gonna be very spendy, particularly if I wanted IPS panels and g-sync.

Also didn't want to replace them with VR now available-ish. I'm still very much on the fence with that and would prefer to witness first hand the improvements over DK2 before making a decision on whether to go for it.

#4262813 - 05/22/16 06:17 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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Originally Posted By: Brun

My three Dell U2711s are getting on a bit (two were second hand) and each one is starting to have issues of one variety or another. Cost of replacing all of them with three new 27" 2560x1440 monitors was gonna be very spendy, particularly if I wanted IPS panels and g-sync.

Also didn't want to replace them with VR now available-ish. I'm still very much on the fence with that and would prefer to witness first hand the improvements over DK2 before making a decision on whether to go for it.


Yeah I was in the same boat with 3 ancient Dell P2310s which I bought long ago for Eyefinity with my AMD5870 and iRacing back in the stone age of 3 monitor gaming.

The center one started flaking out recently so I had to decide whether to pick up a new center one, or upgrade all 3 to larger and gsync, but with VR looming and higher res surround needing SLI to be good, I decided to stall for a while, and so just replaced the center with a 24" refurbished gsync monitor which will allow me to stay with 1080p/5760x1080 for a while longer and still benefit from gsync.

It's good that Nvidia allows just a center gsync for now so I can wait for VR and GPU performance to mature, the single 1080 performing like SLI'ed 980s looks like a trend in the right direction.


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#4264590 - 05/27/16 04:38 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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I almost pulled the trigger on the Superclocked EVGA GTX 1080 today.......will try and be patient for a few more days to see what surfaces. Seems to be a fair bit of stock available on the Founders Editions in the UK with the AiB partners releasing within the next 7 days according to the sites.

I just can't see why anyone would plump for the Founders Editions though when they're high price and lower spec/performance for only a few days before we see more choice.


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#4264619 - 05/27/16 05:24 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted By: Paradaz
I almost pulled the trigger on the Superclocked EVGA GTX 1080 today.......will try and be patient for a few more days to see what surfaces. Seems to be a fair bit of stock available on the Founders Editions in the UK with the AiB partners releasing within the next 7 days according to the sites.

I just can't see why anyone would plump for the Founders Editions though when they're high price and lower spec/performance for only a few days before we see more choice.


Yeah agreed, I think the Founders editions are nice for the early adopters, but like usual MSI/Gigabyte/EVGA/etc will have some better overclock friendly and cooled versions shortly after that for cheaper.


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#4264718 - 05/27/16 10:03 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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I had a good look over the cards this evening. I was originally looking at the Asus Strix OC version with core speed of 1784MHz and boost clock of 1936MHz (3 fan cooler) @ £619

I opted for the Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 iChill Air Boss X3 in the end (another 3 fan cooler) as it was £50 cheaper @ £569 and has factory overclocked memory too. The core clock is 1759MHz with boost of 1892MHz so not a lot in it. Both cards have the additional 6-pin connector and I'm sure will have plenty more headroom to clock further.

I'll be giving my trusty 970 to my son and pairing the GTX 1080 with the 6700K CPU and 32GB RAM I acquired recently so hopefully no further upgrades for the next 25 years wink


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#4265061 - 05/29/16 03:30 AM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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That's going to be a nice setup, from what I hear it will perform like 2x980 SLI, will be interested to hear your impressions once you have it.


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#4265257 - 05/29/16 08:26 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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I am a bit annoyed about the price of the 1070. $380 before tax is a bit steep for me. And the decent versions will probably run up to $400 or so before tax. I know there will be a 1060 eventually but it probably isn't worth upgrading to given that I have a GTX 970.

I remember when $250 bought you a nice card. Rumors don't look good for AMD, but I hope they release something with similar performance for $300 or so. Something to make Nvidia drop prices a bit.

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Looks like the first reviews for the 1070 are out, almost double the performance of the 970 and about same as Titan X thumbsup

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,13.html


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#4265362 - 05/30/16 09:11 AM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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Wow, looks like that's going to be the sweet spot for a lot of people.......and a big reduction in price for the Titan X and 980ti.

AMD have some ground to make up.


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The 1080 Founder's Edition has fan noise problems (not expected given the special cooling design).

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...Many users have reported that they have noticed a major fan issue with the card that revs up from 2000 RPM to 3000 RPM and drops back to idle speeds almost instantly regardless of temperatures and power usage. These type of variations in fan rpm are not great for the cooling system, let alone the noise...


Nvidia says they are fixing it in the next driver update.

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#4268969 - 06/10/16 07:59 PM Re: Nvidia GTX 1070/1080 [Re: Brun]  
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I am considering upgrading my gtx 680 to the 1070 as I think the 1080 is to expensive for me.

I will be using it for my 3 monitor setup so it is important to me that is has the simultaneous multi-projection features that has been mentionen for the 1080. Do anyone in here know if it has this?

I will probably also at one point get some kind of VR when the prices go down a little more so I assume that the 1070 also have the rendering improvements for VR rendering that has been described for the 1080.

Anyone know when none founders editions of the 1070 and 1080 will hit the market?


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