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#4256458 - 05/05/16 01:31 PM Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA  
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IMHO, it makes sense to allow the graphics driver to handle all the AA and optimization settings in any game, and not just WOFF. This has many benefits including enhancing performance and ability to use nVidia inspector as well.

I know WOFF3 is brand new, but over time this will change and want ability to use the nVidia instead... I can see it in my crystal ball.

Do any of the WOFFers like this idea or is it only me?

#4256486 - 05/05/16 02:08 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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#4256505 - 05/05/16 02:41 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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OldHat, you could always and still can let your graphic card handle the graphic optimisation.
Just set the WOFF AA to 8x, and everything else you like high end.
Then go to your NVidia Inspector, or ATI Catalyst Control Center, and set up Anisotropic filtering
and everything else you want to see high end - and it will be.

At least on my ATI card, it always did.


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#4256523 - 05/05/16 03:25 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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Unfortunately, if you don't disable WOFF AA then you will be using both AMD and WOFF setting which can cause extra pressure on your GPU and possibly CPU.

#4256526 - 05/05/16 03:31 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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thats why one is always, application or driver selected. But in my case Woff is excluded for one boot.

#4256527 - 05/05/16 03:31 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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Yep i use My AMD Crimson drivers to override WOFF settings.
I totally get where your coming from OLDHAT..i wonder how much more pressure having it at 2x in WOFF settings actually is? Any idea pal ..but yeah +1 from me


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#4256531 - 05/05/16 03:39 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted By: OldHat
Unfortunately, if you don't disable WOFF AA then you will be using both AMD and WOFF setting which can cause extra pressure on your GPU and possibly CPU.


In the standard Nvidia Control Panel I just select the CFS3 game and check Override Game AA settings and then select the ones I want used. Works great. Not sure if AMD has that option or not.


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#4256533 - 05/05/16 03:44 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: Hellshade]  
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Originally Posted By: Hellshade
Originally Posted By: OldHat
Unfortunately, if you don't disable WOFF AA then you will be using both AMD and WOFF setting which can cause extra pressure on your GPU and possibly CPU.


In the standard Nvidia Control Panel I just select the CFS3 game and check Override Game AA settings and then select the ones I want used. Works great. Not sure if AMD has that option or not.



Amd does that aswell pal..i think what OLDHAT is saying (and correct me if im wrong) is that in WOFF workshop settings it,s still set at a minimum X2,so its running at say X8 in your override and X2 in Workshop,you cannot turn it off completely in Workshop and so its pulling at 2 separate AA settings,i hope thats right guys ?


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#4257776 - 05/08/16 10:14 AM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: Adger]  
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Originally Posted By: Adger
Originally Posted By: Hellshade
Originally Posted By: OldHat
Unfortunately, if you don't disable WOFF AA then you will be using both AMD and WOFF setting which can cause extra pressure on your GPU and possibly CPU.


In the standard Nvidia Control Panel I just select the CFS3 game and check Override Game AA settings and then select the ones I want used. Works great. Not sure if AMD has that option or not.



Amd does that aswell pal..i think what OLDHAT is saying (and correct me if im wrong) is that in WOFF workshop settings it,s still set at a minimum X2,so its running at say X8 in your override and X2 in Workshop,you cannot turn it off completely in Workshop and so its pulling at 2 separate AA settings,i hope thats right guys ?


Yes, that's what I believe is happening. Either the Nomultisampling or override settings may or may not completely work as intended, but who knows. So, the best solution is to have the devs offer an option to disable it inside workshop.

#4257781 - 05/08/16 10:49 AM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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Guys, I'm running an ATI RADEON HD 7870 (2 GB mem), and I have set the WOFF Workshop AA
to 2x, and in a second test to 8x, and in both cases my ATI Control Center to "Override
Application Setting".
I didn't see any performance difference.

I'm not an expert, but I'd guess that Anti-Aliasing is done by the GPU, and therefor can
only be done once - either the WOFF selection, or the overriding setting, when you selected
that. So there shouldn't be any "double-performance".

If any experts here have better knowledge on this, please correct me, if I'm wrong?


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#4257792 - 05/08/16 11:24 AM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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Olham, If you cannot see a difference in performance between 8x and 2x then that is not a good sign. At least if 8x is not stressing your PC, then you should see a very noticable improvement using 2x.

#4257798 - 05/08/16 11:38 AM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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OldHat, not sure how much you know about Anti-Aliasing?
If Anti-Aliasing is getting produced by the grahic card, then that would mean,
that the WOFF setting for AA does not matter at all, when the GPU is set to
"Override Application Setting".

Or do you know more/better about it - then pls tell. I'm not an expert.


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#4257800 - 05/08/16 11:52 AM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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Yes, that should happen, but you said that there is no difference in performance between 8x and 2x which means something is not working right. That's why I suggest OBD to add a function to disable ingame aa and allow to use the driver aa.

#4257852 - 05/08/16 02:25 PM Re: Adding a workshop function to disable in game AA [Re: OldHat]  
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Check with ATI, maybe there's does by default override, but NVidia lets you choose to override.


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