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#4253821 - 04/28/16 09:45 AM X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?!  
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I got the money back for Saitek X55 Rhino, and i don't know what else should i get.
I guess, the next product X56 has the same quality, only with different colors, so it's not worth, imo
I would purchase Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, but i have no rudder pedals, and maybe it would be very difficult to use it for WW2 / WW1 aircrafts, without Z axis / rudder pedals.
It's really impossible to fly or take off ( WW1 / WW2 planes ) without pedals / no Z axis ??


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#4253831 - 04/28/16 11:07 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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Especially for many WW1 aircraft, rudder is very important, and I recommend to buy
real hardware pedals, if you want the "full-real feeling" of it.

If you are looking for a priceworthy solution without pedals, I recommend the
THRUSTMASTER T.16000M twist stick. The BIG strength of it is the matrix inside -
it has the same high resolution as the big "Warthog", which makes great precision.
Also, the strong spring must be unbreakable, or so I read.

THRUSTMASTER T.16000M Website

Drawbacks:
- the throttle slider (which also has a very fine resolution) has a short glide way,
and is positioned right behind the stick, which MAY be a bit crammed, when you pull
back the stick.
(My solution: I glued a plastic handle to it with superglue - much nicer handling.)

- the green bottom area is lighted from underneath - stupid idea, good for nothing!
Solution: you can find good advice how to cut that light wire here:

http://www.wikihow.com/Disable-the-Green-Light-on-a-Thrustmaster-T.16000M-Joystick






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#4253835 - 04/28/16 11:18 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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I have already the Thrustmaster 16000M, and i replaced it 2-3 months ago, with X55
Yes, T16000M it's okay, but not to many buttons on the joystick.


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#4253844 - 04/28/16 11:55 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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I would second the rudder pedals... if you can find them.
It appears the Saitek pedals are out of stock everywhere.

There are the CH Pedals - which have been reported as being a bit narrow but still functional.

Past that things start to get really expensive with limited production pedals.
http://mfg.simundza.com/products
http://www.gostratojet.com/TRudderPedals/index.html

I have the Saitek Throttle Quadrant and really like it.

I also use the Thrustmaster MFD panels.


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#4253848 - 04/28/16 12:05 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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#4253858 - 04/28/16 12:27 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Stache]  
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Originally Posted By: Stache
It appears the Saitek pedals are out of stock everywhere.

I use and recommend the Saitek pedals.
According to AMAZON, they will soon be back on stock.


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#4254087 - 04/29/16 12:17 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
Is that one working for any planes ??


I've not come across a plane it did not work on.

Obviously those planes that only have a blip switch will need a button, I've not flown one of those in WOFF.

Guess you not really need this as you have a HOTAS.

Yes I like my Saitek pedals also, though thinking now I should have bought the combat pedals instead of the normal pro flight pedals.


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#4254128 - 04/29/16 05:57 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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Saitek combat pedals?

Bronxx, what were the negative points for you on the X55 Rhino?


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#4254135 - 04/29/16 07:10 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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The rotary buttons, the joystick was squeaking, and sometimes, ghosting buttons


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#4254136 - 04/29/16 07:20 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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That's bad indeed - damn, it looked solid built, and I had ogled it.


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#4254137 - 04/29/16 07:39 AM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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For the pedals and throttle i have some options to choice from, but i can't decide which joystick i should go for.
I could wait for the Thrustmaster new gears lineup, or even for the Saitek X56
http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/x56.html


http://www.checksix-fr.com/images/images_news/Thrustmaster_news2.jpg
That's the one i would really like, but i can't find it anywhere
http://www.gostratojet.com/Black_Mamba_MkIII/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyux7GInTpU

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#4254246 - 04/29/16 03:39 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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VKB has other stuff in their pipeline.

http://www.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?t=1947

Unfortunately it's still a waiting game at this point.


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#4254789 - 05/01/16 03:59 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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Gunfighter seems to be okay, but not to many buttons on the joystick.
I'm waiting now for the " new Thrustmaster gear "

http://postimg.org/image/3moxoxsyp/

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#4254825 - 05/01/16 06:08 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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Most of those products from VKB are still a good few months away and if you miss to pre-order in time they will be out of stock soon I think.

Personally I don't have my hopes up that Thrustmaster will come up with something great.

#4254841 - 05/01/16 06:39 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Lausbub78]  
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Originally Posted By: Lausbub78


Personally I don't have my hopes up that Thrustmaster will come up with something great.


Why not ?


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#4254842 - 05/01/16 06:46 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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Well,I saw those Pedals they plan to release. I just have a bad feeling about the other products they may come up with.^^

#4254845 - 05/01/16 06:50 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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I hope they release a good joystick, something between Warthog and X55
We'll see, soon. If there is nothing worth to buy, i will wait for the X56 Saitek, allthough i have the feeling, there wont be much improvements over X55


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#4254856 - 05/01/16 07:43 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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Their new GLADIATOR looks good - and affordable!
See my other thread for new link.


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#4254860 - 05/01/16 07:49 PM Re: X 55 Rhino / what else should I get ?! [Re: Bronnx]  
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I sent an email and asked about the Fat Black Mamba
Maybe I'm lucky to get one


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