Just got back from seeing this and I really don't understand all of the complaints from the critics. This was a very solid and well made film with some great performances.


Oh and I loved the little "Inception top spinning" device used at the very end of the film in the final shot.

This movie doesn't deserve a new thread....

But the critics are right this time...it was a crappy souless movie.

The only good thing about the movie was Affleck as an older jaded Batman.

Wonder woman did have her moments but I come away more convinced that Wonder Woman solo movie will bomb.

As for Superman, its not quite Superman 3/4 horrible...but not much better.

The box office track record strongly supports this. Every comic book film with a female superhero in the lead role has bombed. Catwoman and Elektra come to mind.

It can be successful if done right...

Well in a way Rey is the super hero in the new Star Wars.

On TV, i just saw the Flash Supergirl crossover episode...i enjoyed it more than Batman v Supermam

Reminds me of watching the Force Awakens. Recycled. But then again, are not they all this way now ?

Will wait for its release to BD before watching. And yes, watched SWFA in the Theater in December
with my wife. Won`t pay to another till they make em better.

I'd love to be in a board meeting with Warner now, the second week the film faces steep drops in revenue. Warner has been left behind as Marvel is making huge piles of money with their super hero movies, and thus Warner is rushing to do the same, only Marvel built up towards the Avengers with numerous movies, building a universe. Warner pushed everything into one film.

I'm sure it will still make a lot of money though.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/batman...s-weekend-ahead

I am in agreement with Panzer. My wife and I liked it beginning to end, but then we don't expect a Shakespearean experience watching a movie about comic book superheroes.

Exactly. You need to watch films with the correspondingly suitable expectation.


Question for everyone: What did you think of Jesse Eisenberg's performance? I found it interesting that he played it as a genius psychotic while Gene Hackman played Luthor as simply a genius who wanted to get rich.

Agreed.




I don't know. Lets keep in mind that the era those movies came out was the same time as Daredevil, with Affleck and was horrible. That was before the Marvel/DC movies stepped it up in recent years, after the initial X-Men movies and Superman Returns. The Marvel show about Peggy Carter has done pretty well and she's not even a super hero.

Now, Daredevil is the best comic related offering out there, unlike the botched movie. In BvS, Affleck completely redeemed himself and was very well cast (despite my often-wrong misgivings).
Before the MCU movies, and shows, just about the only good comic book movie was Keaton's first Batman movie, maybe the first X-Men (only because of casting Jackman and Stewart). The X-Men movies really haven't kept up and have gotten so convoluted with casting and time jumps, even Jackman as Wolverine isn't enough to compare it to the MCU movies.
Now they know the type of movie their audience wants. Writing and production have hit a level unprecedented at the time of Catwoman/Electra.

I expect a Shakespearean-in-love experience. Is that so wrong?

I snapped quick pic of the movie while I was in the Theater.

That must be the low budget G rated version.

I ultimately really enjoyed BvS but there are things that Warner Bros did that really cheesed my biscuits. Someone really needs to put a bug in a production studio's ear to help them to understand how revealing major plot points or even basic story lines makes it near impossible for audiences to get the WOW factor a movie could give.

The premise of the story was fantastic. Batman fears for the safety of the Earth from a potential free radical with apparent limitless power. We can see from the preview that somehow Batman is going to find a way to defeat Superman and from a few shots of the Batman armor we can guess that Wayne has found a way to defeat the Man of Steel. Will Lex Luthur have anything to do with it? Maybe, maybe not. Or does he have something else up his sleeve? This sets up a grande battle royal that made for a completely satisfying preview. Any hint at Doomsday and Wonder Woman wasn't necessary and IMO degraded the viewing experience for me.

Potential Spoilers:


The other thing that bothered me was I felt the final edit of the first half of BvS was disjointed and awkward because there were so many references and side scenes, that only die hard fans would get. I had no problem following the basic plot lines but sequences like The Flash showing up to Batman proclaiming it's all about Lois Lane made know sense to a casual fan and thus broke the momentum of the story arc. I realize there will be an added thirty or so minutes to the DVD release that may enlighten some of the mysteries and points lost on viewers but IMO if you have to resort to a DVD to explain things then you should probably leave out sequences that need to be explained or elucidated.

Overall, I think the movie was well done. Effects were very good, though some think Doomsday looked average. He worked for me. Sound was good. Music was effective. No one mailed in a bad performance. Ben Affleck WAS Batman for all intents and purposes. The Story (without the incessant need to wink at loyal fans or 'promote' the characters of the Justice League) was satisfactory and would have been much more enjoyable had previews not revealed too much.


I'll be going to see it again because visually it was a treat. I like both characters... and I want to delve into some of the things I missed.

Final tally 7 - 10.

Excellent post knightgames!

Oh and it was really nice seeing Jeremy Irons again. I hadn't seen him in a while.

I've heard somewhere that "Murderman vs. Captain Hypocrite" would have been a better title for the film.

(both superheroes being vastly out of previously established character)

I've never read the Batman vs. Superman comic books but was the film really that different from those comic books in how Batman and Superman were portrayed?

Maybe someone here who has read the comics can answer that?

For those who are not really familiar with the plot lines from the comics The Movie borrowed some plot points from this Comic (seen here as an animated feature) which follows the magazine comic pretty much panel for panel http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Batman-The-Dark-Knight-Returns-Part-1/Movie?id=8526 and here http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Batman-The-Dark-Knight-Returns-Part-2/Movie?id=8558 This was a Frank Miller graphic novel in which Batman hasn't been seen in years and Superman has become an enforcer for the Federal government working at the behest of the President. If you watch it you'll see many parallels to BvS, another series of comics dealt with Superman's fight with Doomsday -
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Death_and_Return_of_Superman -which may give some insight to where the next films will go in dealing with the aftermath of the first although I'm hoping they don't include a new Robin like in the Dark Knight Returns comic although the next film Suicide Squad may give some insight into the films scene where his outfit is preserved in a case. I didn't think the film was bad but editing could have flowed better and yes they gave way too much away in the trailers.
Also there is another adaptation in the animated stories http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Superman-Doomsday/Movie?id=15415
Since the comics re-invent and re-tell the stories so many times any one of these story lines may see a big screen adaptation.

The studo executives supposedly gave a standing ovation to a private screening of the movie.

I haven't seen it but it means that Warner Bros. and DC will be dishing out the same type of movie in the coming years. So, if I don't like it, I won't be lookng forward to any DC movie coming out from that studio. The executives in their suits and supposedly keen business acumen are already committed to their "ideal" movie. Whatever the movie is, it's the pinnacle of their vision of the perfect super hero movie.

Actually, I'm a fan of DC animated and quite enjoy their animated movies. Probably the reason being is that because it is animated, I'm less likely to take it seriously.

p.s. decided to skip the theaters and just see it online.
p.p.s. Take my opinion with a grain of salt. You're reading a post of someone who didn't like Deadpool. I'm not even sure if I have a favorite movie.

almost a 70% drop at the box office isn't a great showing for week 2 with little else out there to see.

IMDB

Thanks for that info. Some interesting stuff for sure.