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#4272532 - 06/23/16 11:31 AM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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I do not really care John but you have made work done by me, privately for you, publicly available.
Therefore by your own standards you should remove them from MediaFire and modify your signature accordingly.

You cannot have it both ways.


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#4272535 - 06/23/16 11:41 AM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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Ah, but the exe is not entirely your work, so not your [IP].

It is/was a community project, and has code in it from a lot of members past and present.

So, I am sharing our work of the community, with the community as a whole.

And you have no right to block the communities access to this exe.

Now clam down, I'd hate to see you banned. biggrin


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#4272541 - 06/23/16 12:16 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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I was just making a point about your double standards, and I will say no more smile


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#4272548 - 06/23/16 12:57 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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Hi Tony.

We all have the right too disagree. wink


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#4272549 - 06/23/16 12:59 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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So, where do I send the bill for my work on the Hampton, P-38, DH1 and Zero?

You know, the ones I finished for you that you couldn't even be bothered to thank me for.

You know, like this P-38 model that, as of this morning, was still on your website.

Yes folks this is the model John has presented as a base for skinners. Note the picture -



The flaps are hinged in the wrong place. When I pointed it out to John he didn't even bother to respond. I fixed them so I could use the model in SPAW and I've never mentioned that to anyone, until now.

Then there is the infamous Hampton model. He sent me that one because he didn't have time to add the landing gear. I cheerfully added the gear and sent it back. Not only did he not thank me for the work or credit the work, he didn't move forward with the project for YEARS. In fact, one time he tried to blame me for the delay when Peter M Booth asked about the progress. It's all in the record if anyone cares to read the sordid details.

Ah, and then the DH-1. He couldn't figure out how to get the rotary engine to display properly because it is behind the pilot. I took on the project which required a fair amount of rebuilding since the 3dz master had screwed it up royally. I never got a thank you for that one either. And again, I've never brought it up until now.

The Zero wasn't in as bad a shape as the others, say about 95% done. I fixed the errors so I could use it in SPAW. When I told him about the fixes he didn't even acknowledge me. ( A pattern emerges )

There are others but you get the drift. This guy is a petty little man, driven by jealousy.

He is a blight on the community and factually speaking has contributed very little in the last few years.

Well that's not exactly true. He has contributed mightily to the rift that is now occurring.

Thanks for that, John.


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#4272551 - 06/23/16 01:06 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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Using a proper 1.29 installation, and exactly the same exe as in the 129basic, a player can see some of your tugboats and barges on the Thames, and your railway stock on the line to Birmingham all in the one mission:





This is not possible with the extremely limited version that you have provided.
The only way to get any variation is to drop files in the root folder, without a filemanager of any sort being provided.
What you provided is good for testing mods, but not for playing the EAW game.

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#4272552 - 06/23/16 01:06 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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I'll let the community see who's the wronged party.


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#4272554 - 06/23/16 01:22 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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Trust me, the community sees.






Now then, you didn't answer my question.

What's the penalty for using your creations without permission? Just in case I have to get my legal team up to speed.






Also, since your edict on permission violates SEAWC rule #1 when can we expect your resignation from that group?






And to the community, note that once again John started this argument by calling me a liar in public. Until then the only thing I asked for was clarity on the penalty.

Would you accept that if you were the target?

#4272583 - 06/23/16 03:11 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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I'm not going to get lured, into one of you slanging matches.


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#4272597 - 06/23/16 03:57 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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You mean the one YOU started?


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#4272909 - 06/24/16 07:05 AM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Rotton50]  
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And you have no right to block the communities access to this exe.

Now clam down, I'd hate to see you banned. biggrin


John,
WTF is your scratch.
If it takes me being banned by MAX, then I will pay that price.
If you like 1.29 then develop it. I am sure Tony will help you add the bits of his code that you like. Kriky, your more of a prick then al :P


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#4273184 - 06/25/16 12:26 AM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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How about less personal discourtesy please. I read all this stuff and it doesn't make pleasant reading. It approaches a breach of the site rules.


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#4273320 - 06/25/16 02:11 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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I agree with you Max.

Aldo - I see your tagline says "every human is unique" which is very true. The few remaining contributors to this forum all have different personalities and it is inevitable that there will be differences of opinion from time to time. This could actually be helpful in a curious sort of way as it sometimes helps us to see outside our own limited "tunnel vision", but there is no excuse for some of the language currently being used on both sides. Ok,when I am having a particularly bad day, and perhaps had a few drinks, some of the things I have said could be a bit over the top too (not to mention rambling on forever), so now instead of firing off an immediate response I try to wait until I have cooled down.

I will now get back to designing my nuclear shelter in the garden - I might need it the way things are going in the world.

Pete


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#4273326 - 06/25/16 02:27 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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Calling a major contributor a liar is not a difference of opinion.

Continually starting arguments is not a matter of tunnel vision.

Spreading false information about the state of exec development is not helpful.

This forum has a cancer.


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#4273336 - 06/25/16 03:40 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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I noticed you did not answer my point about the theft of my work, claiming it as yours, and posting a lie.

It's all there for anyone to read. I stood by, not saying anything as I knew it would be turned against me, by you. But, enough is enough.

Attacking me for not finishing projects? What's the point, when you steal parts of my work, you've been doing it for years, and give no credit. It is simply Intellectual Property theft, And I've had enough of it.

Stolen parts include, is the Hampden Tail, my fine radial engine, which you boasted in a post here, you had used on many radial engined HR updates. And that's just two, of many I've spotted.

I spend hundreds of hours making my models from scratch, and I don't make them for someone like you to build a reputation on the backs of me and others. You convert other peoples models with your quick bodge job way, taking no time to even correct models until your told by Mike about Glide glitches. It's a simple matter to fix a Glide issue, but way beyond your skills. It easy if you know how to do it, so why can't you fix your own problems?

I know you think you have the right to take what you like, but in effect you are stopping the community from having lots of new models, like the Condor, as you would no doubt find a way to mangle it into something else.

So I'm not releasing anything new, until you remove the stolen wildcat, rebuild all the models which has my radial engine, with your own, and make a new tail yourself to replace my Hampden tail, Correct all you readme's showing the true history of the model, and delete all my 3dz models, which are on your PC, including my Mossie.

I can easily annalise any 3dz to see where it came from, so anything you post in the future will be checked, to see if they are original work or plagiarized.

Just in case some are not clear about Plagiarism means:

plagiarize

verb
past tense: plagiarized; past participle: plagiarized
take (the work or an idea of someone else) and pass it off as one's own.
"he was fined $6,000 for having plagiarized the song"
synonyms: copy, pass off as one's own, infringe the copyright of, pirate, steal, poach, borrow, appropriate; More
take the work or an idea of (someone) and pass it off as one's own.
"the author claims she was plagiarized"


An apology would be a good start, Ray, but I won't hold my breath.


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#4273344 - 06/25/16 03:54 PM Re: Fw 200 Condor [Re: Moggy]  
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See.


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