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#4225712 - 02/05/16 03:56 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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A Question that may help to relax a little:
What is the Difference between a new Version and an Add-On?

All OBD said, was, that WOFF X will be the Nothing-left-to-further-enhance-Version of the Simulation's Core.
...and, that they will work on a new Project in the Future, which means, they will spend less Time than before on WOFF-Add-on's.
We are a pretty indulged Community - there were Times, OBD tossed out a new Patch every Week.
I can live with a new Patch every two weeks biggrin

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#4225713 - 02/05/16 03:57 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Hellshade]  
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Originally Posted By: Hellshade
...I'm hoping to get a little WOFF V2 flying goodness in this weekend.
It's been a loooong couple of weeks at work and somewhere...

Same here - I need to get a "re-entry" done into the hell of 1918!
This weekend - at least sunday, should work!

Originally Posted By: Hellshade
...some pixels need to pay for that with their digital WWI lives. attack

Yeah! Give 'em hell, Hellshade! Mmuahahahahaaa!!! laser


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#4225715 - 02/05/16 04:00 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
In the interim let me go get killed by French Nieuports in my March, 1917 J11 career.

Wrong attitude for Richthofen's Staffel, Duke! Mmuahahahaaa!!! RTFM


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#4225716 - 02/05/16 04:00 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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Nietzsche, a patch is just a fix of something they discovered not going as desired.
When everything works find, there won't be a need for further patches.

An Add-on is additional stuff like new aircraft, scenery or whatever they add, to the basic WOFF.


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#4225736 - 02/05/16 04:48 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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Correct, but sometimes the Borders between Patches/ Add-Ons / Versions are a bit "fluid"...
I remember the last Fokker D2 Patch, where they added moving... rolling... Aileron... ahem... Things biggrin You know these Skateboard-Wheels right in front of you, where the Steering-Wires of the Ailerons are hooked up on. This Feature isn't really just a Patch, but it isn't a full Add-On, also. But if you would take more of those Features and bundle them, you would have an Add-On.
So, if you toss out 20 Patches in a Row, containing Features like these, you just would have a Bunch of Patches. But if you instead would wait and "collect" all of these Patches, you could call that Add-On...

#4225741 - 02/05/16 04:55 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Nietzsche]  
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Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
So, if you toss out 20 Patches in a Row, containing Features like these, you just would have a Bunch of Patches. But if you instead would wait and "collect" all of these Patches, you could call that Add-On...


Fortunately for us, OBD tossed them out in free patches, rather than bundling them up and charging us for an Add-on. I think they've had over 200+ free fixes, upgrades and new features since WOFF was released. Pretty incredible if you think about it.


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#4225743 - 02/05/16 04:57 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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I don't agree, Nietzsche.
A patch is a change of something that is already there.
A change of FM, DM, or even a change of an aircraft 3D model like this.
They do not sell such changes; they give them to us for free, cause this was
what they meant it to be like. A correction, a refinement.

An add-on is payware.
And here, the user wants - and gets - something really new.
But maybe Pol or Winder could explain it better - if they come across this.


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#4225747 - 02/05/16 05:07 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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As a software developer here is my 2 cents, a patch is a fix to a known bug, an add-on is adding a new feature to the software, and an upgrade is an entirely new version of the software.

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#4225751 - 02/05/16 05:19 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Banjoman]  
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Originally Posted By: Banjoman
As a software developer here is my 2 cents, a patch is a fix to a known bug, an add-on is adding a new feature to the software, and an upgrade is an entirely new version of the software.


True story...except OBD blurred the lines a bit by often adding new features into it's free patches, such as bloody googles to let you know that your pilot had been wounded.


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#4225773 - 02/05/16 06:26 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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Well there is nothing else on the horizon that's going to top WOFF for WW1 single player flight sim experience so I'm sure it's going to be played for years to come.

#4225830 - 02/05/16 09:22 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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Just go look through the History of changes on our website
WOFF2 history of changes
WOFF1 History of Changes

There are some in a row that are mainly fixes but if you look through you will see some cool new features along the way for no cost.


During the course the year or two there has been many new features, improved or revised features, and fixes in the updates.

WM usually refers to them as 'patches', but actually most of the time they are called Updates on the website most everywhere.

Only the actual file usually is called '...patchVx.xx.zip'

From downloads page for example: " MAIN UPDATE FOR WOFF EXPANSION users (for v2.0 and above)"
For WOFF: EXPANSION (v2.0)


WOFF Expansion
UPDATE v 2.15 15 January 2016

Download:
WingsOverFlandersFieldsPhase4_PatchV2.15.zip"





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#4225831 - 02/05/16 09:27 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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Need more info sicko

#4225832 - 02/05/16 09:31 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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patches / updates , potato / particle beam accelerator , we're just arguing semantics now

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#4225838 - 02/05/16 09:52 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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patches / updates , potato / particle beam accelerator , we're just arguing semantics now
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+1

The list of new features will be available for WOFF X when it is released and then people can look at it themselves and decide if those new features are worth paying for. Pretty straight forward stuff.


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#4225846 - 02/05/16 10:32 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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If we are throwing computer nerd terms around, then I just wanted to make sure we were using the right ones. biggrin


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#4225860 - 02/05/16 11:27 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Akmatov]  
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I just started with WOFF. So bring it all on smile


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#4226003 - 02/06/16 01:03 PM Re: Is WOFF winding down to an end? [Re: Wodin]  
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Originally Posted By: Wodin
Well there is nothing else on the horizon that's going to top WOFF for WW1 single player flight sim experience so I'm sure it's going to be played for years to come.


We have to and for a very loooong time, RoF seems to be dead so WoFF-X will be the last combat WW1 campaign flysim. After WoFF-X we will see only WT style sims containing WW1 planes for MP or some bad made planes/objects like in Canvas Knights.
Still can remember those dessert times after RB3d.

Lets hope OBD will keep us busy in publishing new WoFFX packs on a regular base.


On the positive site, we do not have to change our PC's any more. For RoF/OFF3 I did in 2009 a complete upgrade on my old system [another CPU/cooler/PSU/Vcard/HD and extra cooling fans & RAM] and later a complete new to build system [i5-2500k/HD7970/Dell 27" 2560x1440].






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