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#4220158 - 01/22/16 11:42 AM Activations being used up for no apparent reason  
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Howdy folks,
Is anyone else burning thru their MIG-21 activations for no apparent reason.
Update the updater for 1.5.2 - used an activation

Can changing the USB port I use for my keyboard count as a large enough hardware change to use one ?

Can not having a USB device eg pedals not plugged in trigger this ?


My current count is now Zero activations left, if it triggers again what do I do?

Has anyone else experienced this ?



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#4220177 - 01/22/16 12:40 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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There were problems with the 21's drm, but I thought they had them fixed. Contact Leatherneck, they should replenish your activations.

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#4223833 - 01/31/16 09:29 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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I can't even get it to activate. My activation count is full but it just won't activate. I uninstalled it then after 1.5 was released re installed it. Unfortunately it still won't activate.


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#4223888 - 02/01/16 12:45 AM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Recently LNS changed from the old-style to new-style activations (global vs. per-user IIRC). In any case there was a indicated but easily not-done step of deleting a particular registry entry belonging to the old method to not conflict with the new method.

You may be experiencing both methods somehow fighting with each other which would be solved by some manner of registry work.

On the other hand holding down certain keyboard keys (or if your joystick software does this for you) during loading it will force the activation dialog to appear. These don't force activations but allow them.

#4230362 - 02/17/16 09:47 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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I think they changed now for a quantum style of activation system. You may have an activation... but not know what number exactly. biggrin

I mean... look at this:

Quote:

Known issues
Hawk module temporary doesn’t work.
MiG-21bis module required new activation.


Hahahaha

And when I said LNS quality is going towards VEAO range Cobra jumped like burned.

#4230605 - 02/18/16 03:00 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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The DRM used for DCS and its modules is bad. Not bad as in evil or naughty, but bad like you bite into your sandwich and spit it out immediately bad.

It's always been bad. Every ED sim has had bad DRM. Some have been barely passable, others have been downright foul. None were worse than the disc-based "there's nothing wrong with our program, bring your PC and drive where it doesn't work here to Moscow and prove it" Starfarce junk. The current situation is considerably less odious, but still not what I would consider decent.



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#4230625 - 02/18/16 03:28 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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If you dont wanna use another activation, wait for the next OB patch,
I think Cobra mentioned that somewhere.


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#4230630 - 02/18/16 03:37 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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I don't think this is true.

I had no problem with the old Starforce DRM ED used for FC1. I had zero issues with modules in DCS World besides Mig21 which (sorry Cobra) I tend to blame LNS for.

With LNS track record of human errors and delays ad nauseam I think mistakes in compiling the code to accept the DRM are very plausible to sneak in the workflow. I am no expert in DRM or Starforce but I guess it is a very sensitive piece of software and the reason is like that is because it's trying to protect/lock the code/content against counterfeit by some complex code mojo/magic which becomes fragile at rush/carefulness/ADD or other human fun activities. So if one is not careful when adding the DRM to the stew when compiling the binaries the stew will be spoiled at least for some if not for all.




#4230631 - 02/18/16 03:38 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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#4230633 - 02/18/16 03:42 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Thanks Cobra, we (I hope most of us saw it by now) know but... you said it is fixed for good as we moved from 1.2xx to 1.5x/2.0x. It's like with the delays... I (at least) reached the point where I simply don't believe all you say it is true. Sry...

I hope it will not transmit to Public version when patch will be released. The beta I skip... for lack of space on SSDs.

#4230778 - 02/18/16 08:26 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: zaelu]  
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Originally Posted By: zaelu
@Jedi Master
I don't think this is true.

I had no problem with the old Starforce DRM ED used for FC1.







Lucky you. Rest assured, that puts you in the minority. Balancing that out is people who not only had issues getting it to work but had to go as far as reinstalling Windows.

Just because this is the first time DRM has bitten you doesn't mean this is unique, it just means the law of averages has finally caught you.





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#4230839 - 02/18/16 11:31 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Did this thread get pruned , I thought I saw a hissy fit very un-professional reply from a dev on this earlier ???


............ or was it an illusion ?

Oh and I got a bunch more activations thankfully , this DRM is indeed pretty sh1te if doing pretty much nothing burns activations

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#4230880 - 02/19/16 01:33 AM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Originally Posted By: leaf_on_the_wind
Did this thread get pruned , I thought I saw a hissy fit very un-professional reply from a dev on this earlier ???


............ or was it an illusion ?

Oh and I got a bunch more activations thankfully , this DRM is indeed pretty sh1te if doing pretty much nothing burns activations


No, I replied and then removed it.

If you genuinely believe that was a 'hissy-fit' -- it just confirms that even the slightest defense of oneself in here will be constituted as "unprofessional" behaviour and that I took the correct course of action.

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#4230929 - 02/19/16 03:32 AM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Any update on the 'news' section of the site Cobra, it's still down?


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#4230932 - 02/19/16 03:35 AM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted By: Paradaz
Any update on the 'news' section of the site Cobra, it's still down?


Together with the next F-14 update, sometime towards middle of march.


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#4230985 - 02/19/16 07:59 AM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: Cobra847]  
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Originally Posted By: Cobra847

Together with the next F-14 update, sometime towards middle of march.


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ha ha.... good one!


Originally Posted By: Jedi Master

Lucky you.


Maybe, but you need to take into consideration that I have reinstalled FC1 and Ka50 etc quite a few times without issues. I also have witnessed my friends installing and reinstalling without problems. That doesn't mean I like this DRM in particular but I am just saying... I had no problem and I only heard about them in few cases. Far from majority.







#4230992 - 02/19/16 08:50 AM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: Cobra847]  
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Originally Posted By: Cobra847
Originally Posted By: leaf_on_the_wind
Did this thread get pruned , I thought I saw a hissy fit very un-professional reply from a dev on this earlier ???


............ or was it an illusion ?

Oh and I got a bunch more activations thankfully , this DRM is indeed pretty sh1te if doing pretty much nothing burns activations


No, I replied and then removed it.

If you genuinely believe that was a 'hissy-fit' -- it just confirms that even the slightest defense of oneself in here will be constituted as "unprofessional" behaviour and that I took the correct course of action.


If you are posting as the rep of a company I would assume a more tactful approach would be desired
when responding to your customers, the fact that you removed your post leads me to think that maybe it was a little badly worded and needed a re-think on how to word it to appear more professional.

No reasonable person would deny you the right of reply when dealing with posts that are about you

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#4230995 - 02/19/16 09:12 AM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Activation issues, especially solved with a reg edit are the most minor issues. The only irritating thing is running out and waiting a couple days for support to reset them and LNS pre-kicked that one's butt so no problemo.

#4231045 - 02/19/16 01:29 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: Cobra847]  
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Originally Posted By: Cobra847
Originally Posted By: Paradaz
Any update on the 'news' section of the site Cobra, it's still down?


Together with the next F-14 update, sometime towards middle of march.


Can't wait! I feel the need...

#4231092 - 02/19/16 02:41 PM Re: Activations being used up for no apparent reason [Re: scrim]  
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Originally Posted By: scrim
Originally Posted By: Cobra847
Originally Posted By: Paradaz
Any update on the 'news' section of the site Cobra, it's still down?


Together with the next F-14 update, sometime towards middle of march.


Can't wait! I feel the need...


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