#4201249 - 12/01/15 12:17 PM
Re: iM / DI Apache Longbow
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Thanks Damson. Yeah, I have LB Gold running on Win95 mode (could never make it work in DosBox as it keeps prompting me for the CDs, no matter how many tweaks I tried, including mounting images, mounting the real CD, etc.) and finished it a few times.
I just want to play some of the games I used to like in the "good old days".
Regarding the different versions, I though I had the 1998 version but the graphics look like the original version. Might have to look on ebay for the 1998 version (couldn't find it in Amazon).
Anyway, If I don't insert the CD, it takes me to the network window (network play) but doesn't goes much farter than that.
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#4201624 - 12/02/15 12:43 PM
Re: iM / DI Apache Longbow
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Thanks Damson. Yeah, I have LB Gold running on Win95 mode (could never make it work in DosBox as it keeps prompting me for the CDs, no matter how many tweaks I tried, including mounting images, mounting the real CD, etc.) and finished it a few times. If you were able to install the game in DOSBox that means that you properly mounted the first CD. While in game and going flying the game will prompt you to swap CD. You can do it in different ways in DOSBox: 1. If you mount your CD/DVD ROM drive and use your phisical CD's you just swap them like in the past days. If your CD/DVD ROM drive is letter D:\ in windows then you should put this at the end of your dosbox.conf 2. If you use disk images of your CD's then you can mount them in DOSBox in two ways: • As a queue of 3 CD's assigned to 1 virtual drive in DOSBox imgmount d c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg_cd1.iso c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg_cd2.iso c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg_cd3.iso -t cdrom it will mount the first CD, then while in DOSBox you can press CTRL+F4 to swap to next image defined in dosbox.conf file. Note that if your path to the image file contains at least one space then you must use double quotation marks or the image won't mount! Below is an example for the files named as "lbg cd1.iso" instead of "lbg_cd1.iso". imgmount d "c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg cd1.iso" "c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg cd2.iso" "c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg cd3.iso" -t cdrom • As a 3 CD's assigned to 3 virtual drives in DOSBox imgmount d c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg_cd1.iso -t cdrom imgmount e c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg_cd2.iso -t cdrom imgmount f c:\dosgames\iso\lbg\lbg_cd3.iso -t cdrom
Then you don't have to swap them while in game, you can completely forget about that as the game "sees" all the CD's at the same time and will not prompt you to switch disks at all - most convienient solution - I personally use it. 3. Similar to 1. solution you can use your windows virtual device instead of phisical one (you must have software to emulate virtual device which can mount CD/DVD images - for example Daemon Tools): If your virtual device letter is E:\ (in windows) then in dosbox.conf you add: and when game prompts you to change the CD you must mount another image with Daemon Tools inside windows. I just want to play some of the games I used to like in the "good old days".
Regarding the different versions, I though I had the 1998 version but the graphics look like the original version. Might have to look on ebay for the 1998 version (couldn't find it in Amazon).
Be sure it's SoldOut release. I got mine on ebay some time ago dirt cheap (in jewel case). Anyway, If I don't insert the CD, it takes me to the network window (network play) but doesn't goes much farter than that.
That's normal. It was this way so if you had 1 CD you could still play multiplayer with a friend.
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#4201628 - 12/02/15 12:58 PM
Re: iM / DI Apache Longbow
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Last time I tried DI Apache I had a strange issue where my collective would only be recognized for half the throw of the axis. VERY annoying. I think it was via DOSBOX, as I don't recall getting the Windows version to ever work, and certainly never the 3dFX version.
Been awhile so I may be mis-remembering.
Back in the day, this was the helo sim I thought would be the big Multiplayer breakthrough. Back then, Voice Comms were almost unheard of, and IM/DI never even put text chat into the game making mulitplayer relatively useless. I did fly some MP at a sort of LAN meet with a friend. In a later patch they added some rudimentary canned messages to Wingman or CP/G but it was never really adequate.
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#4201702 - 12/02/15 04:03 PM
Re: iM / DI Apache Longbow
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Thanks Damson. Already tried all the mounting options, but wherever I start it, it keeps prompting for the CDs.
As for the CD version, I did some search and saw that the 1998 version has a different CD cover with the words Sold Out. Mine is the standard DI version (green and white CD covers and manual).
Last night I had some issues and had to do a Windows restore back from the weekend and lost all progress and had to start again. This time the 3dfx patch didn't wanted to install. As soon as it started, said "Detecting installation" (or something like that) and crashed so I had to patch it manually (manual copy of files) and I am back to were I left with the game partially running.
Lots of searching on Google but information is very little, must findings are either about LB2, Apache LB Assault or the real thing.
I could easily just play DCS BS or install EEAH/CH but none of those give me "the feeling" (heck, I could never withstand EE terrain, even with all the new textures released by some great folks, as soon as I see those river beds or forest borders, I have to close it).
Anyway, not sure were to go from here.
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#4201804 - 12/02/15 07:23 PM
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Open up the DOSBox.conf and under the joystick section, set
SWAP34=TRUE and it should fix your stick issue.
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#4201819 - 12/02/15 07:55 PM
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What a memory! DI Apache Longbow, great game, but always prefered Hind. I also loved Jane's original Longbow, still have the CD's around, maybe I need to try it again, the Panama campaign was amazing!!
-Sir in case of retreat, were we have to retreat?? -To the Graveyard!!
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#4202007 - 12/03/15 10:12 AM
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Ah! Had that one too. But it was really hard.
-Sir in case of retreat, were we have to retreat?? -To the Graveyard!!
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#4202381 - 12/03/15 09:48 PM
Re: iM / DI Apache Longbow
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Update: Was able to get it running on 3dfx mode with dgVoodoo 2.4 but: - Even with all settings to full screen, it runs in a Window (which comes up a little down and to the right) - Runs very, very slow.
Also got LB2 running with dvVoodoo 2.4 but instead of crashing after mission ending, the screen goes black and nothing happens.
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#4202529 - 12/04/15 08:42 AM
Re: iM / DI Apache Longbow
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Good Old Games has DI's Apache Longbow for a few bucks ... ( LINK ) Jens
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#4204869 - 12/11/15 12:30 AM
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I always thought it was interesting that all the helo sims (DI Apache/Gunship!/Comanche/EECH etc) all featured the ability of the FCR in the LONGBOW/Comanche to prioritize targets with associated symbology on FCR/TSD. Of all them, the one we consider the MOST authentic (LB2) lacked this functionality!! I mean, you could set the FCR mode to LOW PRIORITY and see only wheeled vehicles (trucks, artillery) MEDIUM (Tanks, APC's) and HIGH Priority (SAM/AAA).
I always thought it was a CHEAT in the other sims until I read that is is a "real" feature. Have to say, though, I felt like I had better SA seeing everything in LB2 as the symbology was displayed the same way so you could see at a glance what was around you. It was annoying for example, to go Tank Plinking in MEDIUM Priority mode and totally miss a nearby SAM site until it had you locked and was launching!!
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#4205012 - 12/11/15 01:37 PM
Re: iM / DI Apache Longbow
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Yeah, in hindsight, there were several features in various sensor modes in LB2 that were not present. However, it did also offer many things that other sims didn't. In LB2, targets were only prioritized if you created a PFZ around them (if I remember correctly). One feature that LB2 exclusively offered, but I never really used as I couldn't see the point of it, was the ability to 'zoom' on an FCR target. All it appeared to do was isolate that target so that it was the only one on the display. I'm not sure what purpose this has in the real thing either… one theory of mine (probably way out) was to use it in high clutter environments, whereby you focus more radar energy on the target to add better chance of classification. Don't know.
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#4205064 - 12/11/15 04:43 PM
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Wondering IF the original Longbow will work on DosBox? Will love to play those Panama missions again.
-Sir in case of retreat, were we have to retreat?? -To the Graveyard!!
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#4205472 - 12/13/15 12:21 AM
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Wondering IF the original Longbow will work on DosBox? Will love to play those Panama missions again. It absolutely DOES!
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#4205563 - 12/13/15 11:23 AM
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Wondering IF the original Longbow will work on DosBox? Will love to play those Panama missions again. It absolutely DOES! Great news!! Now I only have to find those damn CD's...
-Sir in case of retreat, were we have to retreat?? -To the Graveyard!!
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