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#4200311 - 11/29/15 05:00 AM Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine.  
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They are kind of sexist now in 2015!

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#4200312 - 11/29/15 05:17 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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Mmmm.... about half of those are still good advice.


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#4200313 - 11/29/15 05:18 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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They're from 1938. What else would you expect? biggrin


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#4200324 - 11/29/15 06:40 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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It maybe funny to us now back in 1938 millions of girls grew up on rural farms and small country towns and many never ventured into the city during their entire lifetime. It was like going to the moon for them. World War 2 changed that with 16 million men going to war and millions of women going to work at war factories doing jobs the men who went to war did. It was unheard of then for women to work in a man's factory. During those days prior to World War 2, women truly spent their days at home being barefoot and pregnant. It was common for many of them to have anywhere from 4-7 children and most people who didn't live in the big cities were poor, lacking the basics like electricity, cold and hot running water, indoor plumbing toilets - so their children also grew up in that environment.

#4200374 - 11/29/15 12:53 PM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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"If you need a brassiere, wear one." biggrin I would have thought it would have been a hard fast rule that a bra was always needed back then. I guess exceptions can always be made for boobs.


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#4200376 - 11/29/15 01:09 PM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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Bras back then were not comfortable and countouring and it made women's breasts stick out from under their blouses and shirts like 2 pointy triangles.

#4200542 - 11/29/15 11:01 PM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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Are they really sexist suggestions?


I have to say, even in the 2000's such behavior has ended several dates for me. Callback? Nope. Too many women see a date as an entitlement. And that strikes me as very disrespectful to the guy.

I don't expect perfect behavior. I don't expect robotic adherence to societal norms. And yet I'm still disappointed with some of the crap that goes on.


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#4200577 - 11/30/15 12:27 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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This is the way it works. Attractive girls get lots of attention. Period. No way around it. If you think a girl is attractive, you're not the only one.

The more attractive they are, the more life goes out of its way to appease them. They get used to it. They get used to lots of guys who are trying to win their approval, they get used to guys who are intimidated by their looks but are hoping that for some reason, somehow, the girl will see his heart and choose him rather than all the other nice guys who are hoping the same thing, they get used to the guys who are trying to hide their insecurities with false bravado and doing the fake jerk routine. They also get used to lots of guys frustrated by the dating scene and get discouraged and get sort of pissed at the 'unfairness' of it all.

The less physically attractive they are, it looks different of course- they won't be as difficult and it's easier to meet and attract them. The trade-off is that they aren't necessarily what the guy thinks is the hottest girl, but one he might be willing to settle for. And it's the same way if you turn it around- women will be more likely to settle with guys they don't necessarily consider their first choice but with what they think they can get within an acceptable range that they are attracted to.

The more attractive the girls are, the more tests they have to weed out suitors that aren't going to cut it. Doesn't matter what the fellas think of themselves, all that matters is what the female perceives.

So I'm saying it's like hacking into their programming when you understand how women deliberately test and frustrate males to find out which are the ones who are quality. Guys often don't realize that they're being tested and they think the women are being mysterious and you can't figure out what women do. The thing is, it becomes so automatic for women to test all the suitors that they get that it kind of happens even unconsciously for them, it just becomes natural for them.

Here is an example: a girl I went out on two dates with last year went cold. She communicated interest in me and told me I was very handsome and very interesting to talk with, but she then dropped off the face of the earth and I didn't hear from her anymore.

I ran into her two nights ago, and she was very very flirty and started communicating very obvious interest by standing very close to me with her chest pointed right into me. As she was paying me another compliment, I slightly acknowledged it, but with no expression on my face I looked into her eyes and said in a quiet, deadpan voice, "Stop hitting on me." She started laughing but not in a hysterical way, you see that surrender- the head goes back, the mouth opens up while she's laughing, that means non-friendly attention, attraction and interest.

So after all this, she then proceeds to tell me she has a boyfriend. Now a lot of guys won't see this as a test- this is to see what I would do. Would I get nervous, would I change my behavior and suddenly stop flirting with her? If I do these things and look rattled, or if I looked like my plan to get her to bed was foiled by the setback upon finding out she had a boyfriend, I fail the test. Rather than that, I ignored it as if it was never said and continued our conversation, I even got her and her friend back to my apartment later and we had drinks at my place, I had my arm around her, and they eventually went home. The next day, we hung out again, and she was having a good time, and she slipped in a comment again that she was dating some guy (but no longer calling him a boyfriend). Again, I completely ignored this, it did not faze me and she can't read any reaction in me. It's a test.

This girl is 41 years old and looks very good for her age, she looked like a model in her 20s and 30s and although she looks a little older she still looks very good, healthy, trim and active, and she gets a lot of guys after her. But she's testing me to see if I behave like a lot of these other guys who don't pass the tests and can't play the game. These tests aren't designed per se to be mean, but to find the guys they really want- the guys who are steady, the guys who aren't going to fall apart or get clingy, the guys who aren't going to turn out to be angry kinds of guys or guys who are pushovers. They're designed to frustrate guys into giving up, the ones who stick around and can be amused by it and play along- those are the guys who win.

So you don't want to get frustrated and turned off no matter what they do- that's the failing the test. Rather than that, you out-wait and out-wit women. You see it all as a game and one you'll eventually win. Works like a charm.

#4200590 - 11/30/15 12:56 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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I think sexism is still alive a well unfortunately and it's not because of from men:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/educat...s-a6753271.html

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A private school teacher has complained about how "today's girls aren't going on nature walks or learning poetry off by heart - they're cramming their heads full of facts".

Blanche Girouard, who teaches religious education at the 20,000 a year St Paul's Girls' School, also suggested girls were happier when they were simply expected to marry rather than go to university.

Writing for The Oldie magazine, Ms Girouard praised an era when "everything seemed to be geared towards marriage" and "parents really didn't seem to care" about educating girls.


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#4200593 - 11/30/15 01:01 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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I find the 40 something year old women who tries to act like she is still in her twenties to be the worst. I actually get embarrassed for them. I have had a few friends bring a few of them around. I guess it is sad when men do it too.

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Try this- don't have any special feeling for them either way. Treat all women the same.

What do I mean by this? You are comfortable with women who don't frustrate you or intimidate you. The way to get there is to be no less intimidated by the girl of your dreams than someone you have no interest in- that makes you very attractive to the largest pool of women. That means you are going to be steady and in control, when people are frustrated or judgmental by what women do (because nothing that a woman does should get to you, if you don't like it, don't get upset, just ignore it), then they have power over you and they know it.

When I see attractive girls in their twenties and doing whatever it is they do, my attitude is still the same- in fact I see all girls as kind of silly. Silly girls, it's like as Cyndi Lauper had said, "Girls Just Want to Have Fun." That's not a problem, that's what they do. Sure.

But by being frustrated by what women or by letting them get to us, it shows to them, they read it and it acts as a repellent. Any book like How to Win Friends and Influence People will never give advice on being judgmental, it's not how it works.

But you can tease women, especially these women who think they are sh_t hot and are used to guys bowing to them and giving them what they want. You do it in a way that isn't like a personal put-down, but a witty remark which begs a comeback from her. And so that's master level flirting requires.

#4200604 - 11/30/15 01:20 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: LB4LB]  
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Originally Posted By: LB4LB
I find the 40 something year old women who tries to act like she is still in her twenties to be the worst. I actually get embarrassed for them. I have had a few friends bring a few of them around. I guess it is sad when men do it too.

I would think it depends on how they acted/dressed in their 20s to begin with. smile

#4200655 - 11/30/15 06:34 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Mmmm.... about half of those are still good advice.

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#4200662 - 11/30/15 06:53 AM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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I'm quite socially liberal and I'm open minded about what people do as long as they aren't messing with me.

But I'll explain what I agree about what this old fashioned or out of date article does that's right. It's not so much the specific details of what it tells women and specific advice, in fact, it could actually be wrong if you consider there are lots of men out there who don't care about what the women's behavior is like, if they look good, they just want to get into their pants or they are willing to latch on to them romantically. Because that would mean women are getting lower quality males to reproduce with if the men did the pursuing, that's why it should be this way and the woman should be pursuing quality males rather than the other way around. Older movies tended to show this more- the males came and went and did what they want, and the women pursue rather than modern romantic comedies which reverse it and the males are putting all this effort into winning her over.

In other words what this article does is reverse the process about what modern dating gets wrong- makes the women the catch and the guys who must pursue. It's the other way around- notice the article explains to the woman how to catch a guy, how to gain the man's interest. That's the 'natural' order of what generally females prefer. If they want to get the best guy they can get, it's something they're going to have to appraise and get, it's a guy they'll have to catch.

A peacock strolls in, shows off his colors and leaves- the female hens follow him when they like him. The peacock doesn't chase after the females, that totally defeats and deranges the order- and it makes no sense for the peacock to be so vibrantly colored if the male has to do the chasing and catching.

Bugs likewise- a male does something that attracts the female probably happens on some genetic level, we humans wouldn't even understand it or see it, but some process inside her triggers her to take it or leave it. Insects probably don't have much of an ego problem, so it's really not a problem for them to face rejection, they get rejected and they move on, and find another with no psychological damage, baggage or hang ups.

The problem with humans is that they do take things like rejection deeply, that's why they tend to avert risky situations that might get their hearts broken or their egos bruised if they are rejected. So males need to bring that under control, they need to peacock and display and invite the woman's attraction. In order to do this, they have to assume they are a catch and that women will follow- not all of them will all of them time, mind you, but it's the best way to approach it. The women should seek the man's approval, not the other way around. The other way around messes it up.

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Not all "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" though. Some are driven from an early age (adolescence even) to excel in school, college and career. They may land a boyfriend/husband along the way but it's not a priority.



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#4200746 - 11/30/15 01:39 PM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: CG2015]  
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That's a fact Mark.Though I am fortunate to have children that have done well, the 2 girls were pretty much self-motivated to excel (peer competitiveness also comes into play here) whereas the 2 boys would do just enough to get through any project or examination to achieve their chosen goals.
'Settling down' is very low on my girl's priorities within their life and career paths; though I would like to be a Granddad one day...



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Originally Posted By: BD-123

'Settling down' is very low on my girl's priorities within their life and career paths



This is a widepread trend that has existed in most Western nations and Japan for a long time now and it has definitely had a major impact on society (for better or worse depending on your perspective).

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#4200887 - 11/30/15 05:51 PM Re: Tips for single women found in a 1938 magazine. [Re: MarkG]  
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Not all "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" though. Some are driven from an early age (adolescence even) to excel in school, college and career. They may land a boyfriend/husband along the way but it's not a priority.


Not all girls do anything. Not all girls think Brad Pitt is handsome, not all girls like music. But generally speaking, female behavior like a lot of things fall into a general curve. And they themselves give a consistent response in what they consider attractive- charisma, confident, steady behavior. Leadership qualities. There are different ways different men go about that as well:

The Jock
The Class President
James Bond
Clint Eastwood
Byronic kind of flawed hero (I fall into this category the most)

Not all males are going to try and get the the best looking girl, either. There are guys who are going to settle within an acceptable range of looks, and are willing to put up with what they think they can get.

But it is generally true the maxim that "Girls Want to Have Fun" Especially the really hot girls- they like to show it off. They don't want to be taken for granted and left at home if they know they've got it, they're going to sneak out anyway the more you try to pin them down. That's what these old cultures figured out long ago, they knew women were promiscuous and would stray like cats. So they came up with authoritarian, even brutal ways to oppress them and keep them at home (which I of course don't at all believe in doing).



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