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#4195354 - 11/17/15 02:06 AM Improved performance  
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I just upgraded my computer from an older processor (AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition) to an intel i5 4690K and I thought I'd report in with performance in case it helps anyone! My graphics card (Radeon HD 7950, 3GB graphics memory) remained unchanged.

Basically, before I had a usual max of 35-40 fps on moderate graphics settings, down to 19-20 on some campaign missions (particularly over the front). Using Bandicam to record video cost me about 4-8 frames, which was usually fine but did mean that if it was already on the low end it came closer to 15 fps which becomes pretty hard to play at.

With the new CPU and all settings to max, Quick battle is almost always 60fps, sometimes about 57, even when recording with Bandicam. On campaign (Verdun, October 1917) a dogfight over the front involving 12-ish planes and recording with Bandicam dipped down to a minimum of about 44 fps (this is with high activity), which is as high as I ever got before!

Suffice it to say that I'm pretty happy with my purchase. smile CPU is definitely the killer for this game (assuming you have a decent GPU - mine is a few years old but still pretty solid.)


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#4195411 - 11/17/15 05:48 AM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Wow, Thats good news My processor is the same AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition and I get the same Fps. I was planing on doing an Upgrade this summer and now I know what to buy ! However, did U have to change the mother board to accept the I5 processor ? Thanks for posting.

#4195451 - 11/17/15 11:33 AM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Yeah Carrick you'll have to use a new motherboard - i went with the MSI Z97s SLI Krait edition. I'm sure the new Intel 6th gen processors would also provide a similar performance increase, but i saved money not having to buy new RAM by sticking with 4th gen and I think it does an excellent job.


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#4195453 - 11/17/15 11:37 AM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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I love the fact AMD was the underdog and I used to use them a lot, but unfortunately depending on how you see it, Intel over the last few years has regained the crown for raw processing. 3.5Ghz + is always good for WOFF and that's why our recommended system on our Requirements says
"Intel 3.5+GHz CPU or higher."

Hopefully after all this time, this is clear wink





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#4195469 - 11/17/15 12:16 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Congrats on your "new crate", AceofPengwins!
Enjoy the coming, stutter-free air combats.
But mind you: you don't have to correct for the sutters anymore - may be hard at first!
Mmuahahahahaaa!!!

I must be a lucky user - my Intel i5 (2500k) runs WOFF with smooth 60 frps at 3.3 GHz.
(But then I never tried 1918 very much yet...)

I think it may be another advantage, that I have WOFF installed on an SSD-drive.


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#4195476 - 11/17/15 12:33 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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I'm an AMD man due to bang for buck..if I had the money though I'd go for Intel these days. Last year I upgraded from a Athlon 965 duo which I had clocked to a tri core to a six core AMD 9600 CPU. Bought a new Motherboard and it all cost around £140. You can pay well over a £100 for a reasonable Intel chip and their MB's are more expensive aswell so you can be looking at £80 for a new MB.

For the £140 pay out the improvement was well worth it. Though if I'd had around £200 to play with I'd prob gone for intel and spent the full £200.

Also £130 is around the price I go for a new graphics card when I feel it's time for a new one. I have an R9 270 at the moment which is fine for now I may go for a R9 380 with 4gig memory next year when they drop about £20 in price.

CPU's at the moment are so far ahead of software currently that a decent one at 3.5ghz or higher will last you a long while yet as not all software takes advantage of more than one core yet. My advice though is if you see a CPU with six cores at a higher clock rate of one with 8 cores I'd go for the six core higher clock rate.

Finally these days make sure you have 8 gig memory. I've never really got into mem speeds myself as I'm really not sure what the performance increase is and if it's really worth the extra money..though 8 gigs is what you need.

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#4195480 - 11/17/15 12:52 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Yeah Wodin, when I purchased my old AMD processor it was an excellent price and it served me well for five years! (And I'm probably going to put that board and CPU in another case as a lower end computer, it still does quite well at most things.) At the moment intel just has a major advantage in the performance per thread although I hope when AMD comes out with the Zen cpus next year they give intel a run for their money!

Thanks Olham! your 2500k may be getting a little older but it's a good piece of hardware!

And yes Polovski I also think this is a bit unfortunate (and kind of the result of some shady business on intel's part) but it is what it is. The game definitely runs great with that recommended spec!


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#4195532 - 11/17/15 03:06 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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you guys are making me feel bad....my ol Athelon quad 640, sniff sniff, is all I have. I live under an Amazonian dictatership who is also the finanzminister.

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#4195544 - 11/17/15 03:19 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: lederhosen]  
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Originally Posted By: lederhosen
I live under an Amazonian dictatership who is also the finanzminister.

Are you a bit masochistic - or maybe she has other qualities...? duck winkngrin


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#4195635 - 11/17/15 07:09 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
Congrats on your "new crate", AceofPengwins!
Enjoy the coming, stutter-free air combats.
But mind you: you don't have to correct for the sutters anymore - may be hard at first!
Mmuahahahahaaa!!!

I must be a lucky user - my Intel i5 (2500k) runs WOFF with smooth 60 frps at 3.3 GHz.
(But then I never tried 1918 very much yet...)

I think it may be another advantage, that I have WOFF installed on an SSD-drive.


Same i5-2500k here, this 4y old CPU is real bang for bucks, fire this up by overclocking. But also my old HD7970 is going like a rocket. Think the key is to make a separate boot for your fav game and optimize/tweak that boot.

BTW, installing WoFF on a SSD will bring you no more FPS only some faster loading times.

#4195696 - 11/17/15 10:24 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch
...fire this up by overclocking.

I never dared to do that, cause I don't know if I have to set the memory values
back to how they were without overclocking? They change, when I do it.


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#4195948 - 11/18/15 06:27 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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If running a motherboard that can OC a CPU, like intel P?? or Z?? chipset, open your bios and check for automatic overclocking settings, in my case I went to 4.8Ghz without any pain.
Only if running a stock cooler and closed small casing I would stick to the lowest OC settings.

RAM is Intel XMP compatible and set solid to 1600mhz, timings etc are set on automatic because of the XMP. Beware overclocking ram does not have that high impact on games, like a CPU or GPU does.

http://www.legitreviews.com/introduction-to-intel-xmp-ddr3-memory-overclocking_613


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#4195954 - 11/18/15 06:41 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Thank you, Dutch!
I have an ASUS P8P67 mobo, and in the EFI (BIOS) you can select a "safe overclocking".
BUT: the memory values change, if I do that - and I think they should NOT?


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#4195976 - 11/18/15 07:48 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Memory settings usually have to change Olham. Maybe find your motherboard/cpu on an overclocking forum
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/index.php


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#4195978 - 11/18/15 07:51 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Thank you, Pol - I'll carefully check that out.
Having a watercooled CPU, the danger of overheating should be tamed, I guess.


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#4196949 - 11/20/15 11:08 PM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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I am back in the game and went through all of the changes you mentioned here and with in the simular thread
in the TEC. discussion area at the top of the web site.

WOFF went in the VGA settings as d:obdsoftware\woff\obdww1 ... an the settings went to AA 8X and AF at 16X.

However the game when launched has the AF at omly 8X as the max setting. I turn off my McAfee when flying but have it back on as soon as I re start the compututer.In the "Global Settings" Phys was already on Auto.

I an so over my head in doing this -- I need my parachute asap smile.

Several test flights are great sofar.

THANKS!!!


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#4197068 - 11/21/15 08:07 AM Re: Improved performance [Re: AceofPengwins]  
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Check the "Product Benefits" further down on this website of McAffee, CW3SF -
if your version has the "gaming mode", then activate that.

McAffee - Website

The "Gaming Mode" stops your AV from all actions that would cost you frps,
while it keeps up the needed safety and protection.

8x AF should be fine - see my screenshots, I don't use more.


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