Thanks Stache for identifying my error and yes I agree with your concerns. I have no intention of installing it, I just wanted to check out the site info. My system is already clean.

Thanks for your concerns and suggestions.

GWX control panel is good. ghacks is reliable source for some info. here's some links

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/17/improve...10-off-your-pc/

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/24/beware-latest-windows-10-update-may-remove-programs-automatically/

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/01/w10privacy-update-brings-even-more-privacy-options-to-windows-10/

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/

the last one above has a mixture of tools. I use a few that work also on a win 8.1 pc:
Windows Privacy Tweaker

FYI

New post today - watch out for MS December updates.

Microsoft sets stage for massive Windows 10 upgrade strategy

http://www.computerworld.com/article/301...html#tk.rss_all

Looks like the battle continues - Guess I'll have to check out that GWX Control panel.

Stache, Thanks for the info.

I lack the expertice to fight the "WINX" take over, so I will give this"GWX get rid of Win 10" ,or atlease control the takeover a try.

BUT FIRST--- I would like you experts to give a rating on just how good this is along with "does it do harm".

More info please!!

Well, I took the plunge and investigated GWX Control panel. I installed it and it seems to do what it says it will. Installs fine and has a good interface. The one thing I don't like about it is that it wants to start every time you boot and there is no way to turn that off. You have to respond to a prompt to run or cancel the program on each boot. It also is not listed in the Control Panel Programs and Features list so you cannot remove it from your system so easily. I had to go into reg edit to remove it's entries and then delete all traces of it from my disk drives and it was installed on all my OS disks that I boot from in my multi boot environment. That is not nice.

I have removed the program and will not re-install it unless the developer gives me control of when and how I want it to run.

Best Regards

Welp, I had it again last night. When I booted, it gave me the "Upgrade now or download & upgrade later" box, which I simply closed. I checked the drive, it didn't download (I always show all files & folders in the file managers, and all icons on the task bar, or tray...) I noticed the shield on my shutdown button, but no updates icon in the tray, so I ran windows update - low and behold, in the "optional updates" the "Upgrade to Windows 10" was checked WITHOUT MY PERMISSION! I made sure all updates, "important" and "optional", were unchecked - and when I shut down, it installed 23 "important" updates anyway.

Now I'm better than many at this junque, I suppose, but certainly not as good as many here - I owe a bunch of you thanks for the information. RW, it looks like I'll be uninstalling some updates tonight - you've made the list, now I'll check it twice!

This is simply rotten, impolite, heavy-handed behavior. The ordinary user would be upgrading and they wouldn't know how to stop it, and probably just shrug their shoulders and resign themselves to the inevitable. It deeply, deeply ticks me off. And I absolutely marvel that there isn't more noise about it. They probably have themselves covered legally in the mounds of tedious EULA text, but even so, I think an Attorney General or other suitable gov't. official could go after them. When I was offered the upgrade, it said I had up to a year to do it - it said nothing about unsolicited downloads and automatically selection options behind my back, and putting up nag boxes with no way out - at least for the average user.

I just used the link that RedToo provided and I didn't have any problems.

After seeing Banjoman's post I decided to try this as well, and it works well so far. Today there has been no Windows 10 update. It may be my imagination, but the computer seems to boot more quickly.

I'm sure it's not your imagination, that app removes a lot of junk that's unnecessary.

Same here, I used RedTo's "tool" and so far so good.

A few "win 10 " blue boxes, but after clicking on the small X they go way and ZERO Windows downloads
after I start to shutdown my PC!

"Ata Boy" to RedTo !!

Watch out for KB3035583 MS update. It pushes the Windows 10 upgrade and it just showed up again in my download today. Fortunately I don't have my system on auto.

Keep your eyes peeled for this. They keep reissuing it.

I have installed the GWX control panel.

Did it before doing the updates.

It does have a monitor mode which you can choose to enable.

Robert I am not seeing the same results you reported.
I am not getting a window asking me to ok it every PC start.
And for me, it does show up under programs and features with an uninstall option.

So on mine, GWX reported I did not have the GetWindows10 program running, as I had stopped it a while ago, so my system was not nagging me.
However guess I did not do it quick enough as the GWX program found the windows 10 download directory with its 6.2GB on my C drive.

GWX 10 removed that.
I also set GWX to disable operating system upgrades so I would not have to worry about new updates.
I have also enabled monitor mode to catch anythings else.

The GWX Author has posted...
December 15, 2015: I'm half-way finished with the next major update. If you've noticed Microsoft re-enabling your Windows 10 settings while you weren't looking in the past couple of weeks, this update's gonna be for you.

�December 1, 2015: I've gotten some very interesting reports from people using the new Monitor Mode feature. Different PCs are seeing different Windows 10 settings get re-enabled for mysterious reasons. They're not false alarms; these settings are really getting re-set by Windows (it's not happening to everybody, just certain users/computers), and I'm doing research and testing to see what I can do to stop it once and for all. To those of you observing this strange behavior: Hang in there; the next version of GWX Control Panel will have some some features intended to help you regain control and better understand what's happening on your PC.

So Like always - INSTALL at your own risk.

Googling for GWX Control panel finds numerous hits.

Stache, I think you misunderstand me. What I am saying is that the "Windows Update" process shows that The MS KB3035583 is being sent out again as another MS Update which you can choose to install or not. I just wanted to warn everyone that this is about the 6th time MS has re-issued this update, so watch for it and delete or hide it.

Robert,

I was following you. And thanks for letting us know abut the KB.

I was referring to your previous post about GWX Control panel.



I am not seeing a prompt to run or cancel GWX Control Panel on each boot.

I am seeing an option to remove GWX Control panel under programs and features.

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And it looks like the option in GWX control panel to disable operating system upgrade in windows update should lesson the concern of having to keep eyes peeled to check all the updates each time to see if MS reissues the update.

Stache, Your first two points are good news. I did not find an entry for GWX in the "programs and features" list in Control Panel. I wonder if I had the same version as you.

I also had a prompt to run it each time I booted up.

This is all very strange. Maybe I will go have another look at that program and try it again. Can you tell me the version number of the one you are running?

Best Regards.

GWX version is 1.6.0.1 from the about box.

From the site I chose the installer option
Version: 1.6.0.1
Date: November 24, 2015
Platform: PC 32/64
* Download Installer *

I did not choose the standalone executable option.
* Download Stand-alone *

I installed GWX some time ago, and sofar so good. Win updates are set to let me see them before instaling.

Question, Will GWX automaticaly offer the update to help keep win 10 out of our PC's or will they just download it in to the original GWX?

Win 10 pop up still comes on once in a while but when I check the X it is gone for a few more days.

Does any one have an idea as to why Win would do this sneeky & invasive procedure?

In a word, because they can.

A few things, all IMO of course!

1. They don't wan't Windows 7 to become another Windows XP and do whatever it takes - that includes force feeding Windows 10 to not so computer savvy people - to kill it.

2. This way the stats looks like Windows 10 is a "major success" due to the quick adoption and they use that as another argument hoping that other will swallow the bait.

3. Because they are starting to get desperate after the Windows 8.x fiasco where they drove people over
to Linux/Mac so in short they are affraid to loose the their dominant position on the desktop market.

I still use Windows 7 and will continue to do so for many years until I find good reasons to update to Windows X or switch OS completely. For now I don't see anything that benefits me with Win 10 over Win 7, on the contrary since I would have to reinstall everything from scratch and verify that all my programs/sims/HW works without issues - if it ain't broken don't fix it!

BTW, after testing W10 and also noticing that many SW developers follow MS new GUI style in their new releases I wonder if anyone else is prefering the "old classic GUI style" over the new one?

/KC

Robert and the rest of you "GURU's" are keeping up with this issue. THANK YOU ALL for this effort. KeeCat thanks for your hypothesis on why Win 10 is being pushed at us.

Questions, is KB3035583 the only "bad" download on the last few weeks ( after I and others installed GWX )?
Also, does GWX intercept and remove these automaticaly?

I have Ten Win 10 downloads ready and wonder what to do with them. Assume KB 3035583 should not be installed!

Merry Christmas to all.