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#4180695 - 10/12/15 07:05 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
Naw, I admit I once flew in the Alsace region with Ernst Udet in the Eindeckers (in the later Jasta 15),
and I got used to handling it well enough that I even landed hits on two Nieuport 11 and got away alive.
Well, Ernst helped me there...


He saved by butt big time recently..my bad it was Willy not Ernst...same squad though
The EIs are a handful

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#4180711 - 10/12/15 07:35 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Okay, on your special request: the Etrich Taube

According to this video commentator, the Taube was the first plane dropping bombs in a war.



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#4180722 - 10/12/15 07:54 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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No, a Taube wasn't the first to drop bombs.

The first bombing attack was done by an Italian aircraft in November 1911 during the Italo-Turkish war in Libya.


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#4180730 - 10/12/15 08:01 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Ah, so this time it was not a Hun - aerh - a German?
Maybe I didn't listen well enough, and a Taube was the first plane
to drop a bomb in the Great War?


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#4180732 - 10/12/15 08:05 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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I never knew about the seed pod inspiration for the wing tips. They kinda funtion like the modern ones on commercial jets, yet are under the pilot's control , very sweet design.

I still enjoy the seed pods falling from trees....other than cleaning them up in gutters...they will sprout in un cleaned gutters... rofl...friend and I did a job of fall clean up that led to a full roof and gutter job that way more than once.

Arrgggg....that reminds me of the 3 lake front fall clean ups I have ahead. Good thing I don't have to go far with the leaves, just put on a tarp and throw over my shoulder and take a short walk to a low spot that oddly doesn't have a cottage there. The Amish park their horse/buggy there. It's a damm good compost spot now and I took a couple old tires and stacked them up to bake some this summer. horse crap, green grass clippings and leaves are the combos. Tires should not be discarded there, but I made them work to my benefit.

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#4180733 - 10/12/15 08:06 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
Ah, so this time it was not a Hun - aerh - a German?
Maybe I didn't listen well enough, and a Taube was the first plane
to drop a bomb in the Great War?


that is my understanding of things also.

#4181303 - 10/14/15 12:32 AM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Nice vids Olham thank you.
Many things of interest but not to make this long winded...
1) Always amazed by the short take-off run in the WW1 birds.
2) The engine torque on the Camel was amazing - the way it rocks the plane all around on warm-up. Would have expected the same for the DR.1 but it would appear they are not using a rotary?

#4181330 - 10/14/15 02:01 AM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
2) The engine torque on the Camel was amazing - the way it rocks the plane all around on warm-up.
Would have expected the same for the DR.1 but it would appear they are not using a rotary?

The original Fokker Dr.I had an Oberursel 9-cylinder rotary engine, Duke.
But on nowadays airshows, many of them fly with a radial engine.
Mikael Carlson's Triplane has a rotary - watch the video closely, and you'll see the revolving engine.


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#4181583 - 10/14/15 05:08 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Lift off with the Sopwith Pup - great flight sequences!



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#4181620 - 10/14/15 06:11 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Grmpf... now I know, that my POV is way too high & too far back. This Leather-Lined Screen really is supposed to be a Windshield ?!?

#4181660 - 10/14/15 08:04 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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Barmy OFFer in questionable standing, maybe collapsed in a corner?

Join the few, the touched, the moon spacklers.

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Yep, that's what I thought as well. I'm going to fly this challenge with the POV as close as possible to what they displayed in the video.


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#4181702 - 10/14/15 09:57 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
2) The engine torque on the Camel was amazing - the way it rocks the plane all around on warm-up. Would have expected the same for the DR.1 but it would appear they are not using a rotary?


Here a WOFF Cameldance for you thumbsup


#4181762 - 10/15/15 01:35 AM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Banjoman]  
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Originally Posted By: Banjoman
Yep, that's what I thought as well. I'm going to fly this challenge with the POV as close as possible to what they displayed in the video.


Don't forget that your FOV would be much greater in real life than what you would get if you do that though!
salute


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#4181766 - 10/15/15 01:48 AM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Olham]  
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that's true, I'll give it a go and see what happens.


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#4181824 - 10/15/15 07:46 AM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Rick_Rawlings]  
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Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Originally Posted By: Banjoman
Yep, that's what I thought as well. I'm going to fly this challenge with the POV as close as possible to what they displayed in the video.


Don't forget that your FOV would be much greater in real life than what you would get if you do that though!
salute


No it wouldn't. You would be wearing goggles which again reduces your peripherical vision.

#4181836 - 10/15/15 09:39 AM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Creaghorn]  
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Originally Posted By: Creaghorn
No it wouldn't. You would be wearing goggles which again reduces your peripherical vision.

Good point. I guess many of us are flying with a zoomed-out overview the real life pilots just didn't have.
Crammed into their small cockpits, wings above and below, very thick clothing, that hindered them, when
they tried to check their six, layers of grease on the face to protect it from the cold, and said goggles -
their overview must have been very limited, compared to what we can do in sims.

So, for a realistic approach, I zoom as close to the windscreen as I find it might have been (see videos,
or old original photographs), and try to handle that. Most of the time I will be busy with only just
staying with my flight; with only just keeping SOME overview - and most of the time I will miss the enemy -
by either not seeing them at all, or I miss them with my rounds.


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I tried it out, yesterday...
...feels, like you're flying blind. You try to peek through the tiny Spaces between your Gun and this "Leather Cushion", to get an Idea of what happens around you... but all you can determine by that is the Daytime...
The Sun is another blinding Factor - sometimes, you can't see anything...

#4181868 - 10/15/15 12:44 PM Re: Great Aircraft alive! [Re: Creaghorn]  
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Originally Posted By: Creaghorn
Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Originally Posted By: Banjoman
Yep, that's what I thought as well. I'm going to fly this challenge with the POV as close as possible to what they displayed in the video.


Don't forget that your FOV would be much greater in real life than what you would get if you do that though!
salute


No it wouldn't. You would be wearing goggles which again reduces your peripherical vision.


I don't know, I've worn pretty thick goggles for snowmobiling, airsofting and motorcycling and it's not close to as restricting as the default WOFF view. Even my dad's old welding mask would seem to give as good a FOV... Coupled with the lack of spatial relationships you get with no sensation of gravity and (for me) no force feedback, maintaining a maneuver in a turn where you can't see your aircraft frame or the horizon seems much less realistic than positioning yourself that close to the screen... YMMV...


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The funny thing is, I was a baseballcatcher for 20 years until I retired 2 years ago due to shoulder surgery etc., and I was always one of those oldschool types. I once tried for a while those more modern hockey style catcher masks couple years ago, but I couldn't handle the fact that my field of view was way bigger than before, so I went back to the oldschool masks where I always exactly knew how and where to look through properly, although smaller field of view. Sounds odd, but it simply didn't feel right screwy

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