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#4180470 - 10/12/15 12:00 PM Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales  
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#4180493 - 10/12/15 12:52 PM Re: Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Makes it all the more suprising that PC gaming has surpased all other platforms in revenues.

#4180505 - 10/12/15 01:08 PM Re: Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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It's not really surprising. Gamers are obviously still using PCs, the problem that Dell etc. face is that not many other people are.

Manufacturers are also stuck with the fact that a significant number of gamers don't buy off-the-shelf PCs anyway.

#4180526 - 10/12/15 01:49 PM Re: Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales [Re: Brun]  
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Originally Posted By: Brun


Manufacturers are also stuck with the fact that a significant number of gamers don't buy off-the-shelf PCs anyway.


Yep. I have always custom-built my PCs myself, cherry-picking the components instead of being "stuck" with hardware I didn't want. Usually it was also easier on the wallet.


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#4180536 - 10/12/15 02:00 PM Re: Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Yep. I bought one pre-built PC, in 1994, and have built every one since then.

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#4180537 - 10/12/15 02:03 PM Re: Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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#4180544 - 10/12/15 02:17 PM Re: Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Dell just bought EMC for like $10bn. THAT is a bigger worry for current Dell AND EMC employees. Buyouts usually mean "look for people to cut."




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#4180546 - 10/12/15 02:20 PM Re: Windows 10 and plunging PC desktop sales [Re: Brun]  
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Originally Posted By: Brun
It's not really surprising. Gamers are obviously still using PCs, the problem that Dell etc. face is that not many other people are.

Manufacturers are also stuck with the fact that a significant number of gamers don't buy off-the-shelf PCs anyway.


Exactly.

If PC sales are so bad, how did Steam reach 10 million simultaneous active accounts recently?

Where do the news outlets get their numbers? Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc.? [Yes] Have any of you bought any of these brands recently? There is a reason they do not sell well, they have become complacent and sell average expensive machines.

What about the non traditional outlets, like ASUS. MSI, CyberPower, DigitalStorm, Falcon Northwest, etc., are they counted? [No]

As Brun said, how are they going to count home built systems. These used to be insignificant, but the savings are moving people into building their own. And we are talking hundreds of thousands numbers here.

*******

OK, that article Panzer linked is really a sensationalist piece, and not good journalism.


Here is a more detailed article which describes that the decrease (which is just slightly lower than expected) was a result of the devaluation of the dollar (computers cost more abroad) and manufacturers pushing their windows 8 machines to make inventory space for the Windows 10 machines, therefore they are not selling new computers, but machines that have already been counted. These numbers are still normal for the end of a recession.

They have a summary of the manufacturers they used for the analysis a the end.

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS25955515

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