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#4152941 - 08/01/15 04:49 PM “We Need Better Radar In Our Jets”  
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Read the following article and had a slight "WTF" moment.

http://fightersweep.com/1615/we-need-better-radar-in-our-jets/

I thought it interesting when the guy pointed out that 4th-gen fighters carry the work load but 5th-gen fighters are getting the love.

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#4152945 - 08/01/15 05:18 PM Re: “We Need Better Radar In Our Jets” [Re: Talon]  
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Um, this article is talking out of both sides of its mouth.

The primary message is that the radar needs an upgrade in order for the ANG to perform its homeland security mission:

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What does that look like from the ACA perspective? It’s aircraft employing weapons against the homeland, or the aircraft themselves becoming weapons. Ask the citizens of New York City and Washington, D.C. about that. I’m sure you’ll find one or two folks with an opinion.

Here’s the bottom line: the Vipers used for homeland air defense need radar upgrades – and desperately so.


The implication there is that the current radar could not find or shoot down a Boeing 747 on a known (if unauthorized) track. In the case of 9/11, ones with their transponders on and active.

And then it goes on to say:

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the aircraft accomplishing the overwhelming majority of combat operations underway around the world, are at a disadvantage against improved “double-digit” SAMs and advanced Integrated Air Defense Systems.


I don't recall double digit SAM's or an advanced Integrated Air Defense System being a super big threat within the Continental USA. You know, the "homeland." Which is where the big threat is that requires the Air National Guard to upgrade their radar, according to the argument.

It's muddied reasoning like this that makes it sound an awful lot like a company (or sets of companies) that would like a big fat set of contracts has a news reporter that enjoys expensive lunches and tours of their factories.


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#4153143 - 08/02/15 05:18 PM Re: “We Need Better Radar In Our Jets” [Re: Talon]  
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#4153359 - 08/03/15 01:58 PM Re: “We Need Better Radar In Our Jets” [Re: Talon]  
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You've got your money mixed up.

That's the O'Jay's version, For the Love of Money.


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#4153373 - 08/03/15 02:15 PM Re: “We Need Better Radar In Our Jets” [Re: Talon]  
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#4153459 - 08/03/15 05:41 PM Re: “We Need Better Radar In Our Jets” [Re: Talon]  
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That's true, but I was talking about the article itself.

If they need better radar to perform their combat mission overseas, then they need better radar for their combat missions overseas.

But they do not need improved radar for homeland defense, particularly under a 9/11 scenario.

Hell, it was a couple of ANG fighters that tracked down a poor old lady's J3 Cub when she wandered into a Presidential TFR. It had no transponder or radio, and was flying 1000' feet AGL at 55 mph. I think they can handle the homeland with what they got.

Btw, she played the "oh, silly me, was there a TFR?" sweet old lady card and got away with it. The feds didn't think about just what sort of woman in her early '80's with a zillion hours and her own cub would be in the aviation world.


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#4153465 - 08/03/15 06:03 PM Re: “We Need Better Radar In Our Jets” [Re: Talon]  
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Fine. We get it guys, you're feeling neglected and want the same nice toys everyone else has. pitchafit


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