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#4152831 - 08/01/15 09:20 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller ***** [Re: Sokol1]  
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Now I see that I might have done all wrong : first I use this type of Pro Micro :

as you can see on the PCB it's a Pro Micro but using a bigger PCB- it's wider and uses Mini USB connector.

Then I missed this step compeletly :
http://www.geneb.org/mmjoy2/pro-micro-instructions.pdf

In the end, when I use "Start bootloader" in MMJoy2 and look at the Device Manager on COM ports, I see it reports as "Pro Micro 5V" without any "Arduino Leonardo Bootloader COMXX" device. Yet before I've disconected the EDTracker so that's why COM5 is missing now on the COM port list.

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#4152844 - 08/01/15 10:24 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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And this is what happens when I start bootloader and try to upload firmware :

#4152914 - 08/01/15 03:41 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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A colleague had problems with these (eBay) "clone" PRO Micro, seem that some don't come with bootloader, in Aliexpress page someone suggest use the Sparkfun procedures and files for write the firmware, what he did with success.

#4154951 - 08/07/15 06:20 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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This is how my custom controller mod ended up smile

I may add more rotaries, buttons, or switches in time. I left the enclosure big with the intention of just printing a new cover in the future when I decide to add more.


#4155521 - 08/09/15 06:37 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Sorry , i'm very noob and have a very old joystick zykon joyrider pro 4in1 whit gameport DB15 . it's possible connect a DB15 port on arduino pro micro and know the right connections pin to to pin to use the joystick to the usb ? Thank you

#4155523 - 08/09/15 06:59 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: hunter1]  
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Originally Posted By: hunter1
Sorry , i'm very noob and have a very old joystick zykon joyrider pro 4in1 whit gameport DB15 . it's possible connect a DB15 port on arduino pro micro and know the right connections pin to to pin to use the joystick to the usb ? Thank you

Hello. can you make fotos? Better open case and search where cable connects directly to pots/buttons or connect to MCU...

#4155542 - 08/09/15 07:57 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: mega_mozg_13]  
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Originally Posted By: mega_mozg_13
Originally Posted By: hunter1
Sorry , i'm very noob and have a very old joystick zykon joyrider pro 4in1 whit gameport DB15 . it's possible connect a DB15 port on arduino pro micro and know the right connections pin to to pin to use the joystick to the usb ? Thank you

Hello. can you make fotos? Better open case and search where cable connects directly to pots/buttons or connect to MCU...

Thank you for your response , but can't use arduino pro micro like a universal joystick adapter ? gameport to usb ? DB 15 port have only 15 pins , we need only a universal gameport adapter whir 3 axis , 1 throttle , one hat switch and some buttons....


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#4155834 - 08/10/15 03:18 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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With a Gameport to USB adapter, you still having the limitations of the old joystick, the potentiometers wired as resistance, more "noise", few buttons, probable 4 bits of resolution...

Wiring the old joystick "mechanics" in a new USB controller, you improve the resolution to 12 bits, can replace the pot' with HALL sensor, can use more buttons, axis, filters...and can end with a better joystick than these low cost that you can buy.

Anyway the best Gameport>USB adapter is Rockfire, for the price dont worth building your own:

http://www.amazon.com/game-Adapter-Rockfire-RM-203-gameport/dp/B004HAX7OU


#4155958 - 08/10/15 06:57 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Thank you , Sokol . But i have already buy a adapter gameport to usb whit no lucky . I need know how to wired a DB15 gameport on arduino pro micro . It's a zykon joyraider pro joystick 4 in 1 , very versatile joystick .

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#4156024 - 08/10/15 10:04 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: hunter1]  
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Quote:
I need know how to wired a DB15 gameport on arduino pro micro


Instead do this, is better you know how wire pot, buttons, HAT on Arduino matrix without use the gameport, creating a "new" joystick, so you can use all potential of the new controller. wink

What I do in these case are remove all circuits/wires from the gameport joystick - only leaving the wires that are in the tube between the base and the grip because is difficult pass wires there. Make a new wire accord the new circuit.

I guess that you joystick is this:

http://s16.postimg.org/ifazkykcl/1_4_10075255.jpg

With these few buttons/HAT will be easy rewire internally. smile

I know a guy that buy one these FUSBA USB adapter (>100$) for use with Suncom SFS throttle and Suncom F-15 joystick.
For the throttle the adapter work OK, but for the josytick only 4 buttons are recognized - like the original gameport joystick-
the other buttons and HAT need be programmed via keyboard emulation - like the original gameport joystick.

But to do this is required a PS2 keyboard, PS2 keyboard adapters, and a computer
with PS2 input... All this obsolete and unused in actual days.









#4156110 - 08/11/15 03:50 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Hi, great work mega_mozg_13!

I just got FLCS, can you tell me where to connect 5 wires from shift registers? I have pro micro.

Also is it possible to use use registers in link below in joystick? I couldn't find any schematics of shift registers in FLCS.

Thank you!

[url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dual-Shift-Register-Breakout-Board-x2-74HC595-Arduino-Picaxe-Raspberry-Pi-/261969014221?hash=item3cfe91edcd][/url]

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#4156189 - 08/11/15 11:45 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1
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I need know how to wired a DB15 gameport on arduino pro micro


Instead do this, is better you know how wire pot, buttons, HAT on Arduino matrix without use the gameport, creating a "new" joystick, so you can use all potential of the new controller. wink

What I do in these case are remove all circuits/wires from the gameport joystick - only leaving the wires that are in the tube between the base and the grip because is difficult pass wires there. Make a new wire accord the new circuit.

I guess that you joystick is this:

http://s16.postimg.org/ifazkykcl/1_4_10075255.jpg

With these few buttons/HAT will be easy rewire internally. smile

I know a guy that buy one these FUSBA USB adapter (>100$) for use with Suncom SFS throttle and Suncom F-15 joystick.
For the throttle the adapter work OK, but for the josytick only 4 buttons are recognized - like the original gameport joystick-
the other buttons and HAT need be programmed via keyboard emulation - like the original gameport joystick.

But to do this is required a PS2 keyboard, PS2 keyboard adapters, and a computer
with PS2 input... All this obsolete and unused in actual days.









it's is http://troca-se.pt/informatica/110422-joystick-joyrider-pro.html
a MS sidewinder freestyle gamepad and a MS sidewinder force feedback joystick . I have buy this adapter http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-to-DB-15-DB1...e-/310909678467 and this http://www.pccables.com/images/USB_to_Gameport_DB15_Adapter_Microsoft_Sidewinder.jpg whit no lucky , becouse my Windows 7 32 bit show only the adapter .

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#4156393 - 08/11/15 06:51 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Debolestis]  
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Originally Posted By: Debolestis

I just got FLCS, can you tell me where to connect 5 wires from shift registers? I have pro micro.

load last update from
https://sites.google.com/site/mmjoyproject/fajly-dla-skacivania
and check file [Shift_register]_Thrustmaster Warthog_Cougar.jpg

Originally Posted By: Debolestis

Also is it possible to use use registers in link below in joystick? I couldn't find any schematics of shift registers in FLCS.
[url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dual-Shift-Register-Breakout-Board-x2-74HC595-Arduino-Picaxe-Raspberry-Pi-/261969014221?hash=item3cfe91edcd][/url]

no

#4156561 - 08/12/15 09:07 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Quick question - if I just want to use a single encoder to I simply connect up the three pins to power, ground and a button terminal?

#4156567 - 08/12/15 09:56 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Vindicore]  
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Originally Posted By: Vindicore
Quick question - if I just want to use a single encoder to I simply connect up the three pins to power, ground and a button terminal?


"encoder to power and ground" no way!!!

#4156679 - 08/12/15 01:56 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Power and Ground wires are used for axis, plus the axis signal input of each one.

Encoder are two buttons for the controller , so need be wired like the buttons, in the matrix inputs:

http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2014/08/full-37484-85623-pins_common.png
Don't reinventing the wheel. wink

Mix the things and probable result in "chip barbecue", with his peculiar "agreeable" smell. biggrin

#4156697 - 08/12/15 02:15 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Sorry guys, instead of power I meant VCC - and then the buttons to the relevant ones... looking at this guide it seems to be so: http://www.loiph.in/2014/09/arduino-leonardo-atmega32u4-based-usb.html ?

#4156743 - 08/12/15 03:16 PM Re: MMJoy/MMjoy2 - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Question.

I understand where to connect GND, VCC, MISO.

Does SPI-SCK goes to SCLK?

Where with SPI-CS? To MOSI?

Can I connect button matrix and shift registers together?

Thank you!

#4156756 - 08/12/15 03:35 PM Re: MMJoy/MMjoy2 - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Vindicore
Sorry guys, instead of power I meant VCC - and then the buttons to the relevant ones... looking at this guide it seems to be so: http://www.loiph.in/2014/09/arduino-leonardo-atmega32u4-based-usb.html ?


Power, +5V (or 3,5v), VCC are the same thing.

In the link the encoder are used for sound volume control, is a different project than MMjoy2, with different firmware.
If you are build a similar controller, follow the link orientation.

MMjoy2 is for control joystick, is a computer HID device, the encoder is used for simulate button press. Don`t mix the projects. smile

#4156829 - 08/12/15 07:40 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Vindicore]  
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Originally Posted By: Vindicore
Sorry guys, instead of power I meant VCC - and then the buttons to the relevant ones... looking at this guide it seems to be so: http://www.loiph.in/2014/09/arduino-leonardo-atmega32u4-based-usb.html ?

nothing changes, pin from encoder "push" / "gray code" with MMJoy firmware work only via button matrix.

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