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#4120211 - 05/14/15 08:23 AM What's a Gomer?  
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My wingmen keep attacking Gomers.... Are they tanks?


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#4120247 - 05/14/15 10:45 AM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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Originally Posted By: mdwa
My wingmen keep attacking Gomers.... Are they tanks?


You know like Private "Gomer" Pyle ah man am I old


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#4120362 - 05/14/15 03:12 PM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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It's a general term for an enemy. The context I've heard it most used is in reference to an airborne target, basically synonymous with bandits. I don't recall hearing it while playing jf18. Are the AI pilots actually referring to gomers?

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#4120398 - 05/14/15 04:07 PM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: Wizard43]  
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Way over in Perth, Western Aus...
Yep they are calling it out quite often in this one mission I was flying lasst night - Tank Plinking in Iraq - Single mission I think... they were calling out "Gomer spotted, commencing attack" r something along those lines...


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#4123853 - 05/23/15 05:03 PM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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I was under the impression that GOMER stood for GrOund MovER. Am I wrong?

#4123860 - 05/23/15 05:20 PM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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Gomers are an older term for another aircraft that the pilot is in a dogfight with. If your wingman says "attacking Gomers", and the term is used correctly, he may be in a knife fight with more than one bandit and could use some assistance.

#4124090 - 05/24/15 04:32 AM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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Way back during the Vietnam war, gomers was a derogatory term for Vietnamese. The USAF being more than a little slow to acknowledge the need for Dissimilar Air Combat Training, waited until after our involvement in SEA to start DACT. During my time flying in the USAF (79-89), Gomers referred to Aggressor pilots. AF pilots that had flown a tour as an Aggressor pilot would refer to it as, "I was a Gomer at Clark/Nellis/Alconbury." A co-worker bud that was an F-14 guy and later an Aggressor at NAS Fallon recognized the term. He didn't refer to his experience as being a Gomer, he described the assignment as, "I was an Adversary."

Gomers/Aggressors/Adversaries lived and breathed air-to-air combat. Every one of them became a SME (Subject Matter Expert) on some aspect of a potential enemy's air defenses. You can imagine, it was a coveted assignment. But an extremely demanding one too.

If you've read Sea Harrier Over the Falklands you get the wrong impression of the Gomers job. Ward painted his training with the 527 TFTAS from RAF Alconbury in unflattering terms. They weren't there to beat your d*ck into the dirt, they were there to train you by flying like the enemy. They were a lot of fun to fly against!

I never heard anyone broadcast the term Gomer over the radio. I only heard, Bogey, Bandit, and then with a Visual Identification (VID) aircraft type (F-4, F-5, A-7, etc or Phantom, Eagle, Hornet, MiG, Flogger).

#4124103 - 05/24/15 05:28 AM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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Yeah that's my take...When I heard Randall Cunningham & Steve Ritchie refer to the opponents as 'Gomers' I assumed it was the equivalent of 'G**k' or 'Sl*pe';

#4127020 - 05/31/15 10:54 AM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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So is that as opposed to a Goober? wink


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#4127024 - 05/31/15 11:35 AM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: Bearcat99]  
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I always hear it during the ground phase, there are no enemy aircraft in the sky. In game it refers to a moving AA vehicle.

#4127040 - 05/31/15 12:48 PM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: mdwa]  
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I tend to agree with 12-Point. Regardless of what the term means/meant in the real world, in the sim, you always hear it as, "Gomers spotted! Attacking!" There are other callouts for air-to-air engagement, but that callout is related to AIs engaging ground targets.


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#4150810 - 07/27/15 02:30 AM Re: What's a Gomer? [Re: RhinoX55]  
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Originally Posted By: RhinoX55
I tend to agree with 12-Point. Regardless of what the term means/meant in the real world, in the sim, you always hear it as, "Gomers spotted! Attacking!" There are other callouts for air-to-air engagement, but that callout is related to AIs engaging ground targets.



I would agree. As far as its use in this sim:

bogey: unidentified, possibly-hostile aircraft
bandit: identified, hostile aircraft.
gomer: ground target, mobile.


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