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#4142822 - 07/04/15 01:26 PM So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl...  
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...danced and made out like mad with her - but was too damn drunk to ask for her number. ;P

Seriously, I've had to turn almost 34 to have one of these "really drunk episodes"?

Seems a bit ironic to me, this experience. You have a great evening, but then next day you don't remember half of it and nothing meaningful comes of it either. But I guess it was nice and I didn't do anything stupid which is a bonus.

Now on the other hand if I hadn't been drunk (which I'm usually not) I'm fairly sure my brain would have stepped in the way and made me screw up the flirt halfway trough.

Didn't know there's an art to being just the right amount of drunk. Might have to practice more. wink


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#4142851 - 07/04/15 02:50 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I wonder what the population of the planet would be had alcohol never been invented?

But seriously IMO the right amount of drunk when it comes to women is zero. I never followed my own advice however.

#4142854 - 07/04/15 02:56 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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@RSColonel:

You had a good one night stand.

Just remember the good memory and move on to the next girl.


#4142862 - 07/04/15 03:24 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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@Smokin_Hole: I tend to agree with that "right amount" normally but it's funny how even little lapses of confidence can screw oneself over when you have full capacity to think about all the things that could go wrong... Fairly sure had I been completely sober I'd have freaked myself because she was indeed very pretty (also before I had too many glasses wink ).

#4142892 - 07/04/15 04:58 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
...danced and made out like mad with her - but was too damn drunk to ask for her number. ;P

Seriously, I've had to turn almost 34 to have one of these "really drunk episodes"?

Seems a bit ironic to me, this experience. You have a great evening, but then next day you don't remember half of it and nothing meaningful comes of it either. But I guess it was nice and I didn't do anything stupid which is a bonus.

Now on the other hand if I hadn't been drunk (which I'm usually not) I'm fairly sure my brain would have stepped in the way and made me screw up the flirt halfway trough.

Didn't know there's an art to being just the right amount of drunk. Might have to practice more. wink



Did you get a good look at her before you were drunk? Beer goggles are the machinations of the devil. RTFM smile


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#4142920 - 07/04/15 06:23 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
...danced and made out like mad with her - but was too damn drunk to ask for her number. ;P

Seriously, I've had to turn almost 34 to have one of these "really drunk episodes"?

Seems a bit ironic to me, this experience. You have a great evening, but then next day you don't remember half of it and nothing meaningful comes of it either. But I guess it was nice and I didn't do anything stupid which is a bonus.

Now on the other hand if I hadn't been drunk (which I'm usually not) I'm fairly sure my brain would have stepped in the way and made me screw up the flirt halfway trough.

Didn't know there's an art to being just the right amount of drunk. Might have to practice more. wink



You were still too unsure to take her home? You think she wouldn't because girls aren't interested in that sort of thing?

If they like you, they will never be offended if you decide to move things along and offer to take her back to your place, even if they aren't ready for that sort of thing.

People should be reminded that life has a habit of intervening. You assume that tomorrow never comes, you strike while the iron is hot- that's the best time to do it if you're interested in her and you have her making out with you. All kinds of things can happen against you if you wait.


#4142928 - 07/04/15 06:39 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
@Smokin_Hole: I tend to agree with that "right amount" normally but it's funny how even little lapses of confidence can screw oneself over when you have full capacity to think about all the things that could go wrong... Fairly sure had I been completely sober I'd have freaked myself because she was indeed very pretty (also before I had too many glasses wink ).


That is definitely the thing that intimidates males- their perceived physical looks.

Really, in any other situation it never works like this. You're never intimidated by a car that looks good. You want it, you go get it. The funny thing is how much women respect and are turned on when you go for what you want- it's attractive, I want it. I go get what I want. It turns them on when you're turned on and attracted to them.

I know this sounds like it's objectifying women, but you should objectify women. Don't kid yourselves and think it doesn't work this way. A girl will size you up, decide immediately whether 1) You're a physical threat 2) You might be a good lay for the night 3) You are potential boyfriend material. Whatever the case may be, this is how it works: people make judgments and decide if the person has qualities they like. Initial attraction is based on objectifying something- it wouldn't work otherwise. The animals do it the same way, they put on a display or something that they see that they like. There's nothing to be ashamed about by being attracted to someone- that's what they're trying to get you to do. Just like anything else you want in life, if it looks good, naturally you try and get it without being self conscious about it. It really doesn't make sense in any other situation to decide to be intimidated by the object of your desire, and then go after something you like less because it's less intimidating.

But with humans, they anticipate rejection and this kind of thing. It's a shame. They self sabotage themselves all the time. They put the opposite sex on a pedestal, or raise a particular person above them because they perceive them as high value.

If if helps, remember that they never look as good as you think without all that preparation, and they're nowhere near as self confident generally as we assume they are.

Women have more experience with being picked up on, they are more experienced by far in flirting and in opening moves. But they are so underdeveloped in many other ways, and they know it- they know they aren't as hot as they are making themselves out to be with makeup and posturing. They also don't get a lot of practice working on their own personalities because they often don't have to- because males are often so bad in their moves, or are so predictable, it's an area that they don't have much experience in when they actually encounter a guy who is even reasonably comfortable and cool around them. I can't even begin to tell you how the hottest girls I've met turned out to be the biggest dorks and the most awkward people you can imagine. And completely boring when it comes down to it in their everyday lives when they're not out in attract mode.


#4142959 - 07/04/15 08:00 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: Mechanus]  
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Originally Posted By: Mechanus
You were still too unsure to take her home? You think she wouldn't because girls aren't interested in that sort of thing?


Oh, I tried... wink It wouldn't have netted any big benefits however, given my state...

#4142962 - 07/04/15 08:06 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Yes, alcohol goes both ways. It's a great ice breaker, and it's a socially acceptable one. But as far as substances go, because it's a depressant it has problems with function. It's too bad there's another substance that is great for that sort of thing is illegal in so many places. It relaxes people, it makes them feel great, it heightens their libido, it doesn't have the slurring and the staggering effects of too much alcohol.

#4143043 - 07/05/15 05:44 AM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Interesting comments Mechanus, and I enjoy reading long posts as much as I enjoy writing them. wink

Since I married my HS sweetheart almost 30 years ago, I'd have no idea how to pick up or date women today. Hope I never have to find out.

I didn't think my chances were very good with the Mrs., not because she was so out of my league (very pretty but way too skinny for most guy's preferences, I'm wired differently which worked in my favor), but because we seemed to have so little in common. She was college-bound and I wasn't, we'd learn during her freshman year just how hard this could be on a relationship.

I remember approaching her locker being bold and confident (not my usual nature) and she responded positively to it. I would surprise her with the "L" word way before she was ready to reciprocate (and I was ok with that). Our first kiss in the parking lot at her car (I rode the bus...lol), I remember just going for it, grabbing her by the waist and sucking face hard!

Still do it all the time, she knows I'm being nostalgic about that afternoon in the HS parking lot. I assume all women like being kissed like you mean it.

#4143045 - 07/05/15 05:54 AM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
@Smokin_Hole: I tend to agree with that "right amount" normally but it's funny how even little lapses of confidence can screw oneself over when you have full capacity to think about all the things that could go wrong... Fairly sure had I been completely sober I'd have freaked myself because she was indeed very pretty (also before I had too many glasses wink ).


Oh I agree completely. I once saw a very cute Taiwanese girl swimming topless at our very top-required beach. Had it not been for the consumption of a substantial dose of liquid couragement I would never have walked over to say "hi". We dated for two years. It certainly works.

#4143048 - 07/05/15 06:11 AM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: Mechanus]  
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Originally Posted By: Mechanus
It's too bad there's another substance that is great for that sort of thing is illegal in so many places. It relaxes people, it makes them feel great, it heightens their libido, it doesn't have the slurring and the staggering effects of too much alcohol.


Viagra?

When I get drunk, I get horny and it also works has an effect on me like Viagra does (and I have never taken any Viagra in my life).

#4143055 - 07/05/15 08:55 AM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Is it feasible to go back to the same place, same day and time albeit sober and chances that she will be there?



#4143076 - 07/05/15 11:22 AM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Truth be told I there will be others... I don't even know anything about her because I don't think we had any meaningful conversation.

Thats what makes it such a remarkable experience because normally picking up girls is an art for me...

#4143086 - 07/05/15 12:08 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Hey Colonel, there's another side to picking up women when you're drunk.




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#4143126 - 07/05/15 05:28 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I claim to have seen her before we opened the second bottle of Vodka wink

#4143128 - 07/05/15 05:39 PM Re: So I came home from Malta, went out with my boys, met a great girl... [Re: MarkG]  
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Still do it all the time, she knows I'm being nostalgic about that afternoon in the HS parking lot. I assume all women like being kissed like you mean it.


They like what we like. They don't have a choice in the matter.

Chemically, physical contact produces oxytocin- it's the feelings people get- the bonding hormone, call it love or whatever you want to call it. They respond just as much, and probably more than men do. You have experienced things like this even from incidental or accidental physical contact when a stranger brushes against you in public or something. For an instant, there's a spark or something you feel. You certainly feel this way when contact is deliberate from a girl you like- the same things happen with them. On top of that, there is something else that goes on that happens with them- their menstrual cycles.

Women have extra baggage, because of a horrific double standard inflicted on them. Not only do they fear rejection just like males do (we often think this isn't the case, we assume they can meet a guy any time they want), but there is a slut shaming involved if they want to go for it and they think other people are watching and judging. They are only supposed to be interested in sex to get children out of the deal, or to make a husband happy. Therefore, they have some baggage even though they very much would like something to happen.

The things that are going on with people biologically are so much more overriding than things like verbal commitments or societal standards and mores. There's all kinds of things like this going on- things like how romance works in the movies, our images of the way all of this is supposed to work is really just not reality.

When girls start acting rude and snippy or being mean for no logical reason, 99 percent of the time, that means they're horny. It's a sign of frustration- she's not actually leaving and putting distance between you, she's still sticking around, it could not be (to them) a more clear sign that the guy is not moving things along, he is being too much of a gentleman, or perhaps he is just clueless as to her emotional response.

If a girl is being cold, she is in some kind of self protection mode because she doesn't want her feelings rejected.

These states should tell us something- if they didn't actually care, they would not be responding like this. People who don't care about something are just indifferent towards it- they don't put forth the energy in either being rude or putting up a defensive wall, they wouldn't have to if they just didn't care- indifference is the sign that signals bad news (until you create tension, until you start putting an impression in them).

This girl that RSColonel was playing around with- she may have just been interested in a little fun, maybe she even had a boyfriend. I've encountered that situation many times after the fact when they tell me they're involved with someone. I assume now that some girls I've met were involved with people and just didn't tell me. Again, that speaks to how much women are not always these sensitive creatures or behave according to these idealistic Madonna with Child images we think of them as. Their sexual response isn't designed just for an idealistic encounter where just a man enjoys it, and the only thing a woman gets out of it is a feeling of comfort or something.

Let's not forget that there is a window for attraction- if things are not moving along quickly enough, the girl may decide to leave and pursue other possibilities. Then males wonder why she was warm and went cold or something.


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When a girl tells me she has a boyfriend, I tell them: "What does that got to do with me? I want to eff you, I don't want eff him."

You will be surprised how many times that has actually worked.

Many times!

Why?

Because that's the number one excuse a girl will give you is she has a boyfriend.

Many times they don't have a boyfriend and even if they did, many of them are not happy with their boyfriend and are looking to either replace him or mess around on him.

They are giving the guy that excuse to see if he will wimp out and back off or he will step up and continue with the game.

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They may or may not have a boyfriend- it depends on the girl. I have actually confirmed and found out this to be the case more than once. They don't necessarily say it up front, it comes out later. Women will test you, and something is definitely a way to test a guy to see what his intentions are- if he's all talk, or if he is interested in a fling but whether he is capable of closing the deal despite the apparent obstacles.

What surprised me the most is how you are more successful if you close the deal sooner rather than later. How this happens when they know very little about you, on some occasions, the most they knew about me was my name. In less than 20 minutes, I got a lot of information out of the girl, got her to open up, told her virtually nothing about myself, and we're already leaving the place we met, because this goes against everything that is supposed to be different. They are supposed to be invested in something else before they even think of something like that.




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Will any of that be on the final ?


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