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#4139249 - 06/25/15 05:24 AM Has anyone tried Arkham Knight yet?  
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I never finished the last non-Rocksteady Batman games. I really enjoyed the first two and my time with the third and obviously I've been excited to play Rocksteady's latest game. I haven't followed it much but because I liked their previous efforts in bringing a quality super hero game franchise to the gaming world, I want to get it.

However I was taken aback when I saw its Steam store page with a "mostly negative" ratings?! A Rocksteady Batman game with that kind of poor feedback shocked and concerned me. After reading up on it, it seems the negativity comes from absolutely hideous performance issues on the pc.

I've typically always played these games anyways on a console so I would like to get the PS4 version. I just would like to know however from anyone who has tried it how it looks and plays on the console? Any major performance issues?


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Been wanting to ask this question for quite some time. I saw several SimHQ members on Steam playing this and wonder.
Is it really as bad as they paint it in the reviews?!

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I've got it and I have no problems at all playing it. I can run it on 1080p one full settings at 40-50 fps. Every now and then you get a graphical stutter but my FPS has never dropped down below 40. It does have some issues but nothing that makes it unplaying.

I have no idea why they pulled it off of steam. There must be some systems out there that are doing some really weird things with the game that my system can not replicate because from what I have played it is perfectly playable with no real issues.

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They pulled it off Steam? Wow.


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#4139587 - 06/25/15 10:56 PM Re: Has anyone tried Arkham Knight yet? [Re: Coot]  
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Its was that bad....


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#4139640 - 06/26/15 02:05 AM Re: Has anyone tried Arkham Knight yet? [Re: Coot]  
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It really isnt... They pulled it because there were like 75% negative reviews for the game. All those negative reviews were mostly people just giving it negative reviews because they "heard" it had performance issues. :/ I've got 6 hours into the game and it's performance (on full settings 1080p) is no worse than most other AAA games. In fact it is better than most. Farcry4 and battlefield 4 run worse than it does.

This whole performance issues thing seems more like a flash mob than any sort of legitimate concern...

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Originally Posted By: Master
It really isnt... They pulled it because there were like 75% negative reviews for the game. All those negative reviews were mostly people just giving it negative reviews because they "heard" it had performance issues. :/ I've got 6 hours into the game and it's performance (on full settings 1080p) is no worse than most other AAA games. In fact it is better than most. Farcry4 and battlefield 4 run worse than it does.

This whole performance issues thing seems more like a flash mob than any sort of legitimate concern...


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#4139656 - 06/26/15 03:40 AM Re: Has anyone tried Arkham Knight yet? [Re: Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Master
This whole performance issues thing seems more like a flash mob than any sort of legitimate concern...


No, just no. The game's optimization was horrible. Even big YouTubers have mentioned the horrible performance, TotalBiscuit with a mean high-end machine was all over the place but just on the other side of playable. The PC version was missing basic features like AO, Bokeh DOF along with advertised visual features like rain textures -- something the console versions has!

It was a 100% legitimate concern, it's a shameful port and it deserved to be pulled.

And to write a steam review, you need to have the game in your library. So I doubt they *heard* it.



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i think the 3rd party that ported it screwed it up,

they did the same with Origins..


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#4139666 - 06/26/15 04:35 AM Re: Has anyone tried Arkham Knight yet? [Re: Coot]  
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Think it's down to a studio, that wanted to spend the absolute minimal amount of money on this port. Then you end up with these amateur ports, done in record time on a budget you couldn't even paint a small garden fence with.


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Originally Posted By: Sethos88
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This whole performance issues thing seems more like a flash mob than any sort of legitimate concern...


No, just no. The game's optimization was horrible. Even big YouTubers have mentioned the horrible performance, TotalBiscuit with a mean high-end machine was all over the place but just on the other side of playable. The PC version was missing basic features like AO, Bokeh DOF along with advertised visual features like rain textures -- something the console versions has!

It was a 100% legitimate concern, it's a shameful port and it deserved to be pulled.

And to write a steam review, you need to have the game in your library. So I doubt they *heard* it.



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People jump on the bandwagon just to be "cool" all the time even if they dont experience any of the problems themselves. If you look through the steam reviews you can clearly see this is the case. It does have some missing features (graphic options) like motion blur and DoF but ffs those are not always there when a game is ported anyways. The game runs better than most recently new release AAA games.

My specs are old as well. Im running a i7 quad core 3ghz with a nvidia 780ti. I think the biggest thing that helps is a fast SSD because they stream in all the textures.

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review websites were all over it and the publishers themselves acknowledged the issues.

i just think there was some issues in the port.

AMD users hav8ng most of the issues, which is odd considering the cons9les all Run AMD stuff.

alot of people say blame it on GameWorks/nVidia.

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ps, the issues only affected the pc version.


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#4139841 - 06/26/15 03:03 PM Re: Has anyone tried Arkham Knight yet? [Re: Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Master
]People jump on the bandwagon just to be "cool" all the time even if they dont experience any of the problems themselves. If you look through the steam reviews you can clearly see this is the case. It does have some missing features (graphic options) like motion blur and DoF but ffs those are not always there when a game is ported anyways. The game runs better than most recently new release AAA games.

My specs are old as well. Im running a i7 quad core 3ghz with a nvidia 780ti. I think the biggest thing that helps is a fast SSD because they stream in all the textures.


No, people don't jump on a bandwagon of being 'cool' by BUYING the game to be able to review it on Steam. What a load of rubbish. What would they gain from being out of pocket €50-60 until the refund or have them locked with Steam, to give a negative review to a highly regarded game series? Rubbish thing to say. Have you considered the novel idea that the game IS a bad port when it's reported by every single outlet, by a majority of the buyers and even to a point WHERE THE GAME IS PULLED BY THE PUBLISHER, something that has NEVER happened under these circumstances? You think think all this happens on a whim? Because people want to hop on a bandwagon?

What ports regularly strip away graphical features? Never in my life have I heard that, especially not in a AAA title. It's fine that the game runs acceptable for you, given that you haven't posted a single number or valid benchmark but that is besides the point, there is no need to discredit everyone else. Games are released for everyone to enjoy, not just you.

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Crap PC port, this will be a $9.99 title by Steam Holiday sale once all the patches are out which hopefully fix it... that's the point where I will pick it up.

How dumb can the publisher be to release it in this state.


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Originally Posted By: Sethos88
Originally Posted By: Master
]People jump on the bandwagon just to be "cool" all the time even if they dont experience any of the problems themselves. If you look through the steam reviews you can clearly see this is the case. It does have some missing features (graphic options) like motion blur and DoF but ffs those are not always there when a game is ported anyways. The game runs better than most recently new release AAA games.

My specs are old as well. Im running a i7 quad core 3ghz with a nvidia 780ti. I think the biggest thing that helps is a fast SSD because they stream in all the textures.


No, people don't jump on a bandwagon of being 'cool' by BUYING the game to be able to review it on Steam. What a load of rubbish. What would they gain from being out of pocket €50-60 until the refund or have them locked with Steam, to give a negative review to a highly regarded game series? Rubbish thing to say. Have you considered the novel idea that the game IS a bad port when it's reported by every single outlet, by a majority of the buyers and even to a point WHERE THE GAME IS PULLED BY THE PUBLISHER, something that has NEVER happened under these circumstances? You think think all this happens on a whim? Because people want to hop on a bandwagon?

What ports regularly strip away graphical features? Never in my life have I heard that, especially not in a AAA title. It's fine that the game runs acceptable for you, given that you haven't posted a single number or valid benchmark but that is besides the point, there is no need to discredit everyone else. Games are released for everyone to enjoy, not just you.


No, they buy the game and play it because they want to play it. They give bad reviews because they think it is funny or just because some popular youtube personality says it's bad.

They didnt pull the game because they thought it was a bad port they pulled it because it had like an 80% bad score on steam. If you think people dont do that then you are willfully ignorant. Just look at any popular public review site (for any media) and you can see that trend. The problem is that places like PC Gamer and etc use the community reviews and etc when they go to post news. A few people post "has FPS issues and is unoptimized." and then PC Gamer runs a news article "game is unoptimized and has FPS issues" and then more people jump on the bandwagon without really checking to see if the issues are valid and they post their own bad reviews to steam and the issue snowballs.

Tons of ported games dont have full PC graphic options. Im not going to list them because if you dont know of any off hand there is no point in arguing with you about this. (and technically you can adjust those setting in this game it is all just tied into a single effects slider.)

Anyways, buy the game or dont buy the game I honestly dont give a ****. But I know for a fact that this FPS issue is blown out of proportions. None of my friends on steam who bought the game have reported any issues with any of the problems claimed by the community. That is not to say they dont exist but they are not as wide spread as everyone would have you believe.

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You sound like the kind of person that doesn't play many games or know much about the industry. Name me ONE high-profile game that has been completely removed from the market due to bad reviews? Name me ONE AAA game that was completely inferior on PC, in terms of visual features? And this isn't about visual features missing full stop, it's about visual features that are in the console version but not in the PC version.

"Im not going to list them because if you dont know of any off hand there is no point in arguing with you about this" no of course you aren't, because you couldn't to save your life. Just like your "Oh my game runs fine" without a single shred of data, you could barely be arsed to list your PC specifications.

And you even pull the anecdotal "but all my friends ..."

Embarrassing. Everything you've said has been shot down multiple times by what has transpired over the past few days. Maybe you shouldn't be so sensitive about the game or get your blinders off, instead of screaming "Bandwagon!" If you honestly didn't give a toss, you wouldn't feel the need to discredit everyone opposing your opinion with some grasping-at-straws arguments.

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Sethos, you do realize that this is the first AAA game to be released since steam instituted it's new refund policy? You can say whatever the **** you want about me. I dont give a **** about proving my case to you. I presented my view and I am done. Why dont you actually talk to someone who has played the game.

Im not being sensitive about the game. I bought it before it was removed and I am playing and enjoying it. That is all I care about. Someone posted asking if anyone has played it and their thoughts. Well, those are my thoughts. Im not trying to discredit anyone. I have already stated that "I dont have any problems or know anyone who has them but they might still exist." (go back and read my first post in this thread)

As for the steam reviews... yes I will gladly stand behind discrediting those because if you actually go read those reviews you will see there isnt much credit to be had by them.

And the bandwagon **** is real.

But this is starting to get off topic and drag a good thread down so I am done responding to you.

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Oh, you are being extremely sensitive alright. I'm also still waiting for you to just mention one game fitting the criteria I posted, of which you claimed to know many. You seem to be machine-gunning out anecdotal and empty statements that you can't back up. You seem more hooked up on screaming 'bandwagon' because you can't accept the fact that the port was bad.

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All this debacle is just going to make the game go cheap faster at a future sale...

Can't wait to pick it up for a tenner..


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