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#4132855 - 06/12/15 07:25 AM Where's the gas cap?  
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My car was in the shop this week for regular scheduled so many miles maintenance so a friend of mine let me used his car for the week.

A 2012 Ford Mustang.

There is no gas cap on it.

I always thought you need a gas cap to keep pressure on the fuel pump.

Also here in Texas every car is expected to go through a yearly State Inspection which includes emission testing where they take a hose with a gas cap at the end and put it on your vehicle to take the reading on pressure and also if any gas is escaping.

Plus the door to the gas cap on his car doesn't lock.

Anyone can open it and pour stuff down the fuel tank: water, sugar, whatever.

It makes no sense to me!

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#4132872 - 06/12/15 09:13 AM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Over here we have mis-fueling prevention which means only the correct fuel nozzle (or emergency syphon) will allow you to fuel up and nothing else will move the metal plate over. This also acts as a pressure plate and prevents fuel coming out. The plastic flap doesn't lock.

#4132882 - 06/12/15 10:01 AM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Might be a Ford thing. MY 2012 Ford Escape doesn't have a gas cap either. Just a spring loaded flipper gizmo. Open the lid and stick the nozzle in and that's it.

#4132921 - 06/12/15 11:36 AM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Originally Posted By: CG2015
There is no gas cap on it.

I always thought you need a gas cap to keep pressure on the fuel pump.


You do know that as gas is pumped from the tank there would be less pressure in the tank if it was not vented to atmosphere.


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#4132924 - 06/12/15 11:43 AM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Thr modern fuel system does not rely on the fuel tank for pressure. The gas cap has mainly been to reduce vapour emissions for quite a while. A properly designed door/flap is just as effective.


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#4132939 - 06/12/15 12:09 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Originally Posted By: CG2015
My car was in the shop this week for regular scheduled so many miles maintenance so a friend of mine let me used his car for the week.

A 2012 Ford Mustang.

There is no gas cap on it.

I always thought you need a gas cap to keep pressure on the fuel pump.

Also here in Texas every car is expected to go through a yearly State Inspection which includes emission testing where they take a hose with a gas cap at the end and put it on your vehicle to take the reading on pressure and also if any gas is escaping.

Plus the door to the gas cap on his car doesn't lock.

Anyone can open it and pour stuff down the fuel tank: water, sugar, whatever.

It makes no sense to me!


Ford started doing that around 2010 I think.. I had a 2010 Flex that was like that.. The tank and filler are engineered to eliminate the need for a cap.


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#4132964 - 06/12/15 01:00 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Ford is eliminating caps on the entire lineup, started in 2008 or so

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22688959/ns/business-autos/t/ford-making-gas-caps-thing-past/#.VXrXlUYbPYE


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#4132994 - 06/12/15 01:28 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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So there is no way for someone to put anything other than gasoline into someone gas tank that has no gas cap?

You have those bottles of fuel injection cleaners at the auto parts store with the same size nozzle as the gas tank nozzle: someone can still fill those bottles with sugary water and so on and put it into the gas tank.

#4132999 - 06/12/15 01:30 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Ok, yeah, but why would you?



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#4133003 - 06/12/15 01:34 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Ok, yeah, but why would you?



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#4133005 - 06/12/15 01:36 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Ok, yeah, but why would you?

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I wouldn't but some people would like maybe a woman is p o at her bf for something.

#4133016 - 06/12/15 02:01 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Unless it was a locking gas cap, anyone could do it regardless if it had a cap or not. Locking gas caps. They were the hottest selling item back when we had gas shortages. Anybody here remember sitting in line for 20 or 30 minutes and then just as you got to the pumps, they would hang a sign up, "SORRY, NO MORE GAS". Where I lived, you could only buy gas on odd or even numbered days, based on the last digit of your license plate. Ah, the good old day's.

#4133027 - 06/12/15 02:15 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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The door to my gas cap is locked.

You can't open it without using the release on the inside of the car.

#4133035 - 06/12/15 02:23 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: Fitz505]  
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Originally Posted By: Fitz505
Unless it was a locking gas cap, anyone could do it regardless if it had a cap or not. Locking gas caps. They were the hottest selling item back when we had gas shortages. Anybody here remember sitting in line for 20 or 30 minutes and then just as you got to the pumps, they would hang a sign up, "SORRY, NO MORE GAS". Where I lived, you could only buy gas on odd or even numbered days, based on the last digit of your license plate. Ah, the good old day's.


I remember gas lines. Believe it was 1971 or thereabouts. Where in upstate NY are you? I'm in Albany.


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#4133039 - 06/12/15 02:25 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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I remember gas lines in 1979 or 1980 around that time.

Dad and Mom and my brother got up early to take the 2 family cars and Dad's work van to the gas station and get in line for gas.

#4133103 - 06/12/15 03:57 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: Lucky]  
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Originally Posted By: Lucky
Originally Posted By: Fitz505
Unless it was a locking gas cap, anyone could do it regardless if it had a cap or not. Locking gas caps. They were the hottest selling item back when we had gas shortages. Anybody here remember sitting in line for 20 or 30 minutes and then just as you got to the pumps, they would hang a sign up, "SORRY, NO MORE GAS". Where I lived, you could only buy gas on odd or even numbered days, based on the last digit of your license plate. Ah, the good old day's.


I remember gas lines. Believe it was 1971 or thereabouts. Where in upstate NY are you? I'm in Albany.


The gas lines started around the summer of 72 or so.. I was still in H.S. but they peaked in the late 70s.. The sale of locking gas caps went through the roof..


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#4133122 - 06/12/15 04:38 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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OPEC imposed the oil embargo against the U.S. starting in October '73.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1969-1976/oil-embargo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

I remember it since it was early in my senior year in high school, and it provided extra incentive for me to go into the U.S. Naval Nuclear Power Program after graduating. Of course, the Three Mile Island incident knocked a good bit of the bloom off of that rose before I finished my 6 year enlistment in 1980.

The second oil crisis was 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_energy_crisis


The Ford gas capless approach does seem like a bit of a vulnerability to someone bent upon causing damage.

#4133149 - 06/12/15 05:39 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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Well, I hate to say it but if someone is a jerk enough to put that in your gas tank, they aren't going to be deterred by having to pry open the cover to get to the gas port. I had this same discussion with my brother when he wondered about my 15 Mustang not having a cap and having a push release to open the cover (no interior switches).


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#4133157 - 06/12/15 05:54 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: Fitz505]  
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Originally Posted By: Fitz505
Unless it was a locking gas cap, anyone could do it regardless if it had a cap or not. Locking gas caps. They were the hottest selling item back when we had gas shortages. Anybody here remember sitting in line for 20 or 30 minutes and then just as you got to the pumps, they would hang a sign up, "SORRY, NO MORE GAS". Where I lived, you could only buy gas on odd or even numbered days, based on the last digit of your license plate. Ah, the good old day's.


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#4133168 - 06/12/15 06:23 PM Re: Where's the gas cap? [Re: CG2015]  
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I have a 2009 Escape and it has no gas cap, just push the nozzle in as described earlier.


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