#4130986 - 06/08/15 08:42 PM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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No one comes on here to change your mind - who cares what you or I think? People come on to explan things as they see it and perhaps shed a new light on a subject not to call you a retard. Duke, you're sense of logic is funny. I just stated a simple wish and got slammed by you and the dev....nowhere on these 59 pages of wishes are comments on someone's wish similar to this: I will just sum up and say "You are incorrect " on most everything. Strange that people complain about ... But stating it as broken because they don't behave like robots etc. is a bit harsh. No point to this discussion now, I got the standard answer as I expected. ... No need to fix anything what's not broken. Nothing is perfect, but it's the best AI out there.
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#4130989 - 06/08/15 08:50 PM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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May I point to my previous response in this thread as a respectable analysis. If you disagree, that is fine. We can't always come to a common agreement. That said, I think you stated your case well, and so it now remains for the devs to pick and choose from this thread whatever they feel has merit.
This is a wish list and so if there is a need to continue dialoguing on what is and what should be, I feel it would be better done in one of the other forum catagories such as tech issues or such or even create a special thread for the issue
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#4131009 - 06/08/15 09:50 PM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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This is the perfect place to give voice to ones wishes. The fact that the devs have put out 184+ new features, improvements and bug fixes in the last year and a half, many of which came from user feedback, says that they do their best to make happen what they can.
The fact that they haven't implemented 59 pages worth of requested changes says they are human beings and not all things are possible. Sometimes "fixing this ends up breaking that" and so the devs give us what they feel is the lesser of two evils.
By all means, everyone is free to post their wishes and to be certain, sometimes other people will disagree with your wish. That's just life. The devs may or may not implement it and that's life too. Just because someone doesn't get the all important feature to them done, doesn't mean the devs don't care. Flight sims are complex and some things just can't be done or would take way too many man hours to produce a result that wouldn't, in the end, be satisfactory.
There are people in other sims waiting 5 years for AI planes to be able to land, etc. Or for AI to put up any kind of fight at all besides endless split S moves all the way to the deck and then slow, wide circles when it gets down there. There's always room for improvement in every sim, including WOFF so by all means ask. In the meantime, try to enjoy it for what it offers.
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#4131012 - 06/08/15 09:58 PM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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Now,taking a break from AI behaviour,please "I WISH" that be implemented the personal choice of plane at a certain "status" in game (historically accurate)...I hate Lewis guns on Nieuports upper wing... please.... Gasp!?!?! Hate the wing mounted Lewis sir? It goes with the Nieuport like peanut butter goes with jam.
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#4131171 - 06/09/15 08:44 AM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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Now,taking a break from AI behaviour,please "I WISH" that be implemented the personal choice of plane at a certain "status" in game (historically accurate)...I hate Lewis guns on Nieuports upper wing... please.... Gasp!?!?! Hate the wing mounted Lewis sir? It goes with the Nieuport like peanut butter goes with jam. Well I prefer the Vickers on engine cowling And by the way,peanut butter it's not my thing anyway...
" In vino veritas "
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#4131194 - 06/09/15 09:55 AM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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No point to this discussion now, I got the standard answer as I expected. ... No need to fix anything what's not broken. Nothing is perfect, but it's the best AI out there. You attitude is probably half the problem, what Creaghorn was saying is perfect logic. However yes if it's broken it's possible we may look at something if time resources permitting and so on. If it's not broken (i.e. we made it that way) then it doesn't need fixing however it MAY be that we can add a new feature. Taking an aggressive stance in here won't get features added. The 2-seater crews generally were told to stick together. A good example of this was when losing 4 out of 6 brand new Bristol Fighters on a first mission as they flew like 2-seaters and stuck together - until they realised it's actually a bloody good fighter too. But 2 seater pilots were generally told to stay in formation. Some 2-seaters do break sometimes, and sometimes when wounded, or panicked etc. Yes all those features we say are in there on the features list actually are in there. Funny that. If it's not behaving how you like, yes a feature request is the way to go. Don't criticise just say "I'd like the 2 seater pilots to dive away sometimes" whatever. Usually they'd do that if alone. So this subject is bashed.. we read it. If it starts getting silly in here we won't read it. So guys please be polite in here and stay calm and reasonable and all is good.
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#4131201 - 06/09/15 10:23 AM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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I wish for this thread to become a nice peaceful "wish thread" again...
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#4131255 - 06/09/15 12:13 PM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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And you don't like peanut butter?!? Oh we gotta talk C57... Come over here Sir Duke,afterwards you'll never want any peanut butter at all...
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#4131268 - 06/09/15 12:36 PM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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I wish for this thread to become a nice peaceful "wish thread" again... Well yes but s**t happens,the most important thing is to clean everything after....I mean there's no Forum in the Universe wich is free of flames,a good bucket of water and all's as usual Don't forget the Lysol and soap!
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#4131280 - 06/09/15 12:52 PM
Re: Wish List for WOFF
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It's not possible to come to a rational understanding with a person who is intent on misunderstanding what you say and who won't accept anything other than total capitulation on the part of others as an acceptable outcome, even if what they want is simply not possible. Best to just say the facts as they are. Let 'em rant away and eventually, when nobody bothers to respond anymore to their passive aggressive attacks because the facts have already been stated clearly enough for anyone who is trying to understand, they just go away. It's not too hard to pick out the folks who are constantly crying "victim" and yet somehow, the rest of the forum members seem to be getting along just fine.
I expressed quite the same concept,but in a different way,but as i said it happens,because talking face to face is one thing,doing that though a media and elapsed times,it's another so...we are all human and we make mistakes or misunderstandings easily,the most important thing is to in fact "understand" and learn.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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