I wanted to try something different and compare campaign modes, so I went ahead and got Red Baron 3D.

Obviously compared to WOFF it's primitive, but for 1998? Wow. What a fun little game.

Of course, in my first mission once I figured out what I was doing, I did shoot down Immelman AND Boelcke...

Yeah, it's campaign system is still the benchmark for other campaign systems today.

I reinstalled it while I was waiting for OFF to arrive. It has held up very well considering its age.

And it mods up well with all the work the community put into it.
Played it for years till I got OFF/WOFF.
The King is dead! Long live the King!

That is the first pc game I ever bought.
It is responsible for turning me into a pc flying addict.

Great game back then,it was fun both offline and online flying,being still old analogic connections....but really enjoied it!

I used to love it but WOFF so dominates it in every way that I don't miss it at all. Except the music, I love its music. That takes nothing away from WOFF's music, of course. I just prefer brass.

A true classic that kept me busy for years!

Actually RB3D still does one thing better than WOFF. You have better management options for your squadron in RB. In WOFF, you can't choose the compositions of flights and determine waypoints. This is something that I hope the devs will be able to add to WOFF one day.

However, in every other important way WOFF has definitely surpassed RB3D.

Red Baron with FCJ (Full Canvas Jacket) Mod was excellent. I really enjoyed watching those AA shells slowly coming up through the air toward your plane. I spent hundreds of hours on that game.

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RB3D with FCJ, HA, and its other add-ons is still loaded in my old computer with the Voodoo 5500 graphics card that I now use to display the WOFF maps on my second monitor. RB3D was a great sim back in the day.

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Guys Guys look at this: http://redbaron3dofficialsite.com/stage2.php

I really tried to like Red Baron. Of course, back in the day the graphics were much cruder than now; just wasn't a believable world. Lining up a shot was like trying to look through a letter slot in a door. Something would zip by, but turn as I would, I could rarely see him again, much less latch on to his six. My hat switch didn't improve things much. (What a joy TrackIR is!)

(aka Hauksbee)

RB3D was a decent game, but really was a great "base". The mods kept that game alive for years after it otherwise would have been "dead". The RB3d community was, pound-for-pound the single most talented game modification community I have ever encountered. It seemed like 70% of the people in the community had some talent or other that could be used to improve that game over the years.

RB3D was great for the times,expecially with Voodoo graphic cards,also its online mode was really fun,a lot of good times with my Squadron mates,from all over the world,and it was still analog connections!! Pity WOFF hasn't an online part.

Ah, you young pups, you don't realize how lucky you are! Back when I was a kid, we had THIS:


and we LIKED IT!!!

HA!...

I'll REALLY date myself... 1981.. Triple Action for the Intellivision. My first experience with WWI Biplanes at home. There was also an arcade game called Red Baron, but lets keep it to what we owned.

I pulled this from You Tube... this is not me.. this was the best I could find.

Yes Rick,we started out with that "then" it was 3D,it makes you smile now but back then it was something! Only flying sprites.... And all those "bootstraps" from 3 1/4" disk just to gain those mighty 600K of base memory? Good old DOS times!! I remember loading up Wing Commander (sci-fi flight sim by Chris Roberts) 12 Floppys to go for install.....it used to take one hour at best,hoping that there weren't any glitches in between.
I had an AMD 386 DX CPU wich was faster than any Intel 486 already on the market,and a Tseng Labs 3000 video card,with an stonishing 1024K of onboard video memory,HD was an enormous 80Mb,I don't wanna mention RAM ...too puny!

Since we are going down the hardware memory road here I remember my first "external hard drive" for my C-64.
IIRC it was the size of a shoe box and stored a phenomenal 120 MB - yes MB!
Thought I was really cool as I marveled at the technology. Looking back I am not really sure what I did with it though? Stored something I guess!

Duke, I can top that. When I got my Commodore 128 the salesman tried to sell me a 40 MB hard drive and I told him how would I possibly need all of that storage space.

Ha!
Amazing how things change.