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#4100369 - 04/01/15 07:04 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: LukeFF]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
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Originally Posted By: Haggart
anyone with a history of serious mental health issues such as suicide should not ever be allowed to fly commercial aircraft


Um...so how many times had he committed suicide before this?


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You knew what he meant.


If so, why did you bother pointing it out?

Oh right, you are joyless.



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#4100576 - 04/02/15 08:47 AM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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There was a recent bit of added information that he
reported having vision problems, but the physician
(ophthalmologist/optometrist?) couldn't find anything
wrong and suspected psychosomatic. Couple this with
depression and sudden extreme behaviour, and one starts
to speculate about brain tumour. Unfortunately, we'll
never find out.

#4100770 - 04/02/15 04:07 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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BERLIN--The Germanwings co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing an airliner into the French Alps last week searched the internet on ways to commit suicide and on cockpit doors security measures, the German prosecutor in charge of the case said Thursday.


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#4100772 - 04/02/15 04:08 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Haggart]  
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Originally Posted By: Haggart
BERLIN--The Germanwings co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing an airliner into the French Alps last week searched the internet on ways to commit suicide and on cockpit doors security measures, the German prosecutor in charge of the case said Thursday.


Wow. This just keeps getting worse.


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#4100780 - 04/02/15 04:27 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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As is often pointed out when a mass killing occurs; there is no real way to defend against an insane person. We can regulate, and check, and re-check to the point where nothing works ( IMO we are almost there now ) but a determined crazy person will always find a way.


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#4100783 - 04/02/15 04:31 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: No105_Archie]  
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Originally Posted By: No105_Archie
but a determined crazy person will always find a way.
Sad but true. However, the fact that Lufthansa knew beforehand the medical history of this pilot means that this specific tragedy could have been avoided. He should have been barred from flying at that time but wasn't.


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#4100794 - 04/02/15 04:52 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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what is typical of our society is that until he is a muslim middle eastern guy, our medias carefully NOT use the term "terrorist" for a young white male of good origin (I am sure he was a good christian) who carefully planned to kill himself and invited to his farewell party 149 other persons who surely were not prepared to follow him into the grave.


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#4100802 - 04/02/15 05:06 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: SHar82]  
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Originally Posted By: SHar82
what is typical of our society is that until he is a muslim middle eastern guy, our medias carefully NOT use the term "terrorist" for a young white male of good origin (I am sure he was a good christian) who carefully planned to kill himself and invited to his farewell party 149 other persons who surely were not prepared to follow him into the grave.


I think the media would have used the term "terrorist" with no reservations if Lubitz had a political agenda behind what he did. Up to now there is no evidence supporting the idea that he had political/ideological motives for what he did.

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#4100812 - 04/02/15 05:17 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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Depending on what is your definition of a terrorist.... IMHO, this act surely could be considered as a Terrorist attack: it was carefully planned and it terrorized 149 persons at least for the last 8 minutes of their life (without counting how many of us just thinking about the horror to be killed that way).

After all you can plan a suicide with much less casualties - a gliding accident comes to mind (he was a glider pilot)... why kill so much people when you have easier alternatives available?

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#4100816 - 04/02/15 05:24 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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It's really a sad indicator of intelligence when you have to look up how to kill yourself online.

It's not that hard.

As for him being a terrorist, he doesn't fit the definition just yet. Causing people terror isn't what makes a terrorist, otherwise clowns would all be classified.

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The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property in order to coerce or intimidate a government or the civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives.


Unless there was political motivation it's simply a jackass committing a mass murder-suicide. I still don't condone his actions; the 'terrorist' label doesn't change the fact that he was a huge waste of oxygen.


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#4100845 - 04/02/15 06:18 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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Let's keep it Community Hall. A few of these last point went too far.

Next one and it gets moved.


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#4100848 - 04/02/15 06:28 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Chaz]  
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I think when it was ruled intentional versus an accident it was pretty much the point of no return wink


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#4100899 - 04/02/15 08:03 PM Re: Germanwings airliner down, French Alps [Re: Haggart]  
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Originally Posted By: Haggart
BERLIN--The Germanwings co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing an airliner into the French Alps last week searched the internet on ways to commit suicide and on cockpit doors security measures, the German prosecutor in charge of the case said Thursday.


Does this strike anyone else as really odd? As in, the allegation conveniently fits the narrative?

I'm not claiming there is a coverup, but wouldn't you think someone who works in an airline service's cockpit would already know the specifics of that company's cockpit door security measures?

Between the speed that the cause of the crash was announced, and now this... it seems to be just a touch weird on the part of the authorities. I'm just wondering.

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