#4097770 - 03/27/15 10:40 AM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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OK...slept in a bit on my day off and lost early morning campaign time so I had a chance to experiment. Olham I took the date off your screen capture (25 August 1917) and started then.
Aircraft listed (Manual Enlistment screen) for Jasta 5 on 24 August were the DV, DIII, DIII (Early) but I started on 25 August where it suddenly switched to: DIII(OAW), DV, DV in order of highest to lowest.
Aircraft numbers for the 25th are: 3 DIII (Early), 6 DIII(OAW), 12 DV (Uprated)
On the chalkboard in the Ready Room all the big guns (Mai, Konnecke, Rumey) were assigned the 3 DIII (Early).
On the flight line two of the HA's showed some generic paint job and the third had a custom, but not green tail, skin. Me (as a Lt) and my wingman sat there in green tail DV's.
Yes....there is an issue!
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#4097784 - 03/27/15 11:24 AM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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Aircraft numbers for the 25th are: 3 DIII (Early), 6 DIII(OAW), 12 DV (Uprated)
On the chalkboard in the Ready Room all the big guns (Mai, Konnecke, Rumey) were assigned the 3 DIII (Early).
On the flight line two of the HA's showed some generic paint job and the third had a custom, but not green tail, skin. Me (as a Lt) and my wingman sat there in green tail DV's.
Yes....there is an issue!
I think it is easy to correct - I hope the devs will read this here.
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#4098089 - 03/27/15 08:01 PM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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Guys, I do have the skin pack - the problem is that the aces still all recieve D.III(early) in August 1917. The "early" skins don't have green tails. The normal D.III skins do. Something just needs to get "adjusted" there, I suppose.
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#4098307 - 03/28/15 10:12 AM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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Thank you for the detailed explanation, OvS! Perhaps you can write to OBD with a link to this thread, so they notice it?
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#4098353 - 03/28/15 01:35 PM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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The problem (and that is MUCH too strong a word) is not so much the skins but that certainly by late July through September the Staffel is way too populated with DIIIs and DIII(OAW)s and not nearly enough DVs. In actuality the preponderance of Jasta 5 Alb DIIIs in spring 1917 were mostly in the early 2200/16 serial number range, between 2200-2250/16. I.e., first production batch machines, although from the last 100 machines of the batch. So they used Alb DIIs until the DIII began arriving in March, although even by 1 April both types were present. I've only ever seen two or three DIII(OAW)s scattered across the months. Jasta 5 didn't "shift gears" and get later DIIIs, then DIII(OAW)s, and then DVs. They flew their DIIIs and then got the DV--not to mention the DV was available before the DIII(OAW). Certainly by 1 August Jasta 5 was primarily a Alb DV Staffel with a few DIII exceptions. As is seen in these well-familiar late July 1917 photographs: Also, any jump to the DV should not occur before late May, when the DVs first began showing up at the front. Schneider's DV was 1066/17, a pretty early machine with a headrest that was removed in-field. I don't know when that arrived at Jasta 5 but 1033/17 arrived at Jasta 3 on 23 May, so presumably 1066/17 was not long after. I realize this is a flight sim and there are limitations. Just FYI stuff. EDIT: I'm sorry but I just now noticed AF's post up there. Interesting how there are so many DVs while I, for instance, see hardly any DVs and way too many DIIIs. In September, no less.
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#4098369 - 03/28/15 02:09 PM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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Thank you for the detailed explanation, OvS! Perhaps you can write to OBD with a link to this thread, so they notice it? Polovski trawls this forum more than a Pirate hunting for fresh booty (insert sexual reference here) ... so I imagine he's already aware of this. I'll ask him if there is anything I can do to help. OvS
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#4098372 - 03/28/15 02:17 PM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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Polovski trawls this forum more than a Pirate hunting for fresh booty...
Haha - if that is so: hey, Pol, have a good weekend! You too of course, OvS!
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#4098422 - 03/28/15 05:21 PM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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Also when we talk about 'aces'... we are also talking about pilots. Meaning... a lot of the 'aces' in WOFF are average pilots on their way to 'acedom'. So to make them active and give them life, they are always considered 'HA's'. This now gives them more priority than you to have a better plane unless you outrank them. Even though you have 10 kills and they have none.. you get the lesser crate if they outrank you.
In my experience the HAs always get the best planes even if I outrank them. I have intentionally started campaigns as a Hauptmann solely in order to fly with the one of the best new planes as soon as they are available to the squadron. But I continue to be assigned one of the old models for an extended period while multiple lower-ranking HAs fly the new ones every time from day one.
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#4098455 - 03/28/15 06:58 PM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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In my experience the HAs always get the best planes even if I outrank them.
Well, that would be okay for me. After all, the campaign manager must be quite a "mighty machine" with a huge pile of data to control. It would simply be too much, I guess, to even teach it who had which rank or soandso-many victories etc. at which time in the war. So I guess a HA is treated as a HA from the beginning. We must earn our spurs. That's okay for me, really.
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#4098528 - 03/28/15 10:30 PM
Re: Lack of Alb DVs and Greentails in Jasta 5 Campaign
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It would simply be too much, I guess, to even teach it who had which rank or soandso-many victories etc. at which time in the war. I agree that basing it on the number of victories would probably be too difficult. However, I have read several times that it currently is based on rank, regardless of whether the pilot is a HA or me. This means that they must have thought it was possible to program it that way. However, it doesn't work that way in the game.
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