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#4097923 - 03/27/15 03:31 PM 1970's concept designs for life in space  
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Anyone who has watched Babylon 5 or has played the Mass Effect games will find these concept drawings very familiar...

http://mashable.com/2015/03/21/space-colony-design/


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#4097926 - 03/27/15 03:36 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I'd rather have a simulated sky, you'd think seeing space when you look up from your window would be depressing after a while.


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#4097928 - 03/27/15 03:53 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Looks like Elysium ripped those drawings right into the film. Almost an exact match.

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#4097937 - 03/27/15 04:06 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Presumably you would be orbiting a planet which would make a pretty cool scene. I liked B5 in that it rotated on an axis, so it wasn't just an outside strip that was livable with gravity but the entire inner lining. And a zero G spot dead center on the axis. I don't know if that's how it would work, but it made for good story material.
Something I liked about Halo was that it was set on a ring world. Outside you could look up and see the ring, then dive into the infrastructure the next scene.


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#4097940 - 03/27/15 04:16 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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It'd be a pretty cool scene for sure, but unless I was born in space I can't imagine walking out of the front door of my ranch on a space station for any extended period of time. It's not the same!


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#4097943 - 03/27/15 04:18 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I remember those renderings from when I was a kid. I always thought they were cool, but would never be built in the timeframes usually discussed in the articles, and so far I've been right smile

I saw this the other day, and thought about picking one up for nostalgia purposes:

http://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/8058/space-settlement.html


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#4097954 - 03/27/15 04:24 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: Arthonon]  
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Originally Posted By: Arthonon


I saw this the other day, and thought about picking one up for nostalgia purposes:

http://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/8058/space-settlement.html


Looks a lot like the space station you see in 2001 but with only one ring structure instead of two.

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#4097958 - 03/27/15 04:30 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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#4098003 - 03/27/15 05:43 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Arthonon


I saw this the other day, and thought about picking one up for nostalgia purposes:

http://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/8058/space-settlement.html


Looks a lot like the space station you see in 2001 but with only one ring structure instead of two.

I think the large ring is supposed be some sort of farming ring. The central core is actually very large, and would be like this image on the inside:

http://1.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/NASA-2.jpg


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#4098027 - 03/27/15 06:18 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Ug. All that glass = massive radiation. Fail.


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#4098066 - 03/27/15 07:29 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Actually, it's a common myth that glass causes radiation.

False.




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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Actually, it's a common myth that glass causes radiation.

False.




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LOL, you're right - glass doesn't cause radiation - it just does jack nothing to stop it from coming in!


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#4098184 - 03/27/15 11:35 PM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Leaded glass can reduce the amount of radiation getting passed through, but the added expense... yikes!

For a massive space structure, it would make more sense to use the water and soil as shielding. The humongous windows throughout the entire station would not be practical.

#4098218 - 03/28/15 12:49 AM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: Dart]  
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Originally Posted By: Dart
Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Actually, it's a common myth that glass causes radiation.

False.




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LOL, you're right - glass doesn't cause radiation - it just does jack nothing to stop it from coming in!


Not to mention micro-meteorites. Yikes!

I've got a book on my bookshelf I bought in the '70s titled 'Space Colonies'. I remember reading it and hoping to be able to visit a station like one in the book when I was grown up.


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#4098226 - 03/28/15 01:03 AM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: Arthonon]  
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Originally Posted By: Arthonon
I remember those renderings from when I was a kid.



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#4098248 - 03/28/15 02:13 AM Re: 1970's concept designs for life in space [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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The sad thing is that we had a far better space program in the 1970s & 80s too.


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I won't even trust using glass in outer space with billions of particles zipping around.

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Originally Posted By: Arthonon
Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Arthonon


I saw this the other day, and thought about picking one up for nostalgia purposes:

http://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/8058/space-settlement.html


Looks a lot like the space station you see in 2001 but with only one ring structure instead of two.

I think the large ring is supposed be some sort of farming ring. The central core is actually very large, and would be like this image on the inside:

http://1.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/NASA-2.jpg


That design is actually unusable - it is unstable, the large ring
isn't massive enough, so the narrow cylinder dominates, and its
rotation wants to spontaneously flip into the state where the
most mass is farthest away from the rotation axis, ie. end over
end. By the time you have enough mass in the large ring to prevent
this, you have a completely different design, more like this

http://settlement.arc.nasa.gov/Kalpana/Kalpana-exterior-7-1920.jpg



(that's not window glass on the outside, that's solar panels outside
the moonrock shield mass.)




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