I remember learning the old rhyme that "Butter, bread, and green cheese is good English and good Frise." I believe you could say it in either English or Frisian and it would sound pretty much the same.
#4096352 - 03/24/1508:41 PMRe: My new cutie - now, ain't she sweet?
[Re: Olham]
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,739Olham
Barmy Baron from Berlin
I was on holiday at a small island in the Maldives and couldn't understand a word of what the other guests were saying. I took a guess at some Eastern European language like Czech or Polish or even Bulgarian. It turned out they were Swiss Germans
Yeah, Switzerland is actually one country with three languages: German, French and Italian. Their German is very special. Bavarian may be closest to it, but it is still quite different. The good thing is: they speak extremely slow.
Some say, they are extremely slow altogether... Watch this after 1:30 mins...
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#4096709 - 03/25/1511:59 AMRe: My new cutie - now, ain't she sweet?
[Re: Olham]
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 997HumanDrone
Just shoot me...
I am surprised to learn of so many dialects - I had no idea that that the German language was so diverse that way. But yes, Olham, I think I could have understood the "Plattdeutsch" sentence that you wrote above. The similarities remind me of Scottish as well, with "kirk" for "church" and "ken" for "know", that sort of thing. But I'm generally lousy with languages - I didn't even know there was a Frisean language.
I know any time I see a show from the BBC, I occasionally have problems understanding "English" English. And I think I related a story of my one and only trip to England, when the hotel clerk and I had difficulties because we had very different terms for the same objects. And don't even try to understand a Cockney!
Cant' wait to see the video above, I'm at work now...
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#4096731 - 03/25/1512:49 PMRe: My new cutie - now, ain't she sweet?
[Re: Olham]
Yeah, Switzerland is actually one country with three languages: German, French and Italian. Their German is very special. Bavarian may be closest to it, but it is still quite different. The good thing is: they speak extremely slow.
Four languages, actually. Their other official language is Romansch, a language that evolved from Latin with Celtic and Germanic influences. It is spoken chiefly in some parts of Canton Graubuenden.
Now if you want to enjoy some real Swiss culture from my era, here is the closest the Swiss ever got to having their own Woodstock -- the 1969 novelty hit song "Gruezi Wohl Frau Stirnimaa".
The similarities remind me of Scottish as well, with "kirk" for "church"...
= "Kark" in East Frisian low German...
Originally Posted By: HumanDrone
...and "ken" for "know"...
= "Ken" in East Frisian low German...
Originally Posted By: HumanDrone
I didn't even know there was a Frisean language.
There is also "Sorbisch" (Sorbian?) - Germany is a very old terrain in Europe...
Originally Posted By: Raine
Four languages, actually. Their other official language is Romansch, a language that evolved from Latin with Celtic and Germanic influences. It is spoken chiefly in some parts of Canton Graubuenden.
Wow, never hear of that one! Sounds VERY interesting - old remains of Latin?
Originally Posted By: Raine
...here is the closest the Swiss ever got to having their own Woodstock -- the 1969 novelty hit song "Gruezi Wohl Frau Stirnimaa".
Haha, yeah, that was actually a big hit in Germany in the seventies!
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#4099788 - 03/31/1506:36 PMRe: My new cutie - now, ain't she sweet?
[Re: Olham]
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,739Olham
Barmy Baron from Berlin
No. 46 Sqn's B-flight did an airfield attack today on Haubourdin. While the others fired their rockets, I spotted a lone Albatros D.III in a landing approach. I engaged him, and he took the fight on. We chased around at treetop level, until the German lost control over his craft after several hits, and slammed in.
My first Albatros shot down in WOFF - a strange feeling... And I was so nervous, I forgot to make screenshots. But here are some of our approach, and my return to La Gorgue, as I was crossing the river Lys.
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#4099967 - 04/01/1501:17 AMRe: My new cutie - now, ain't she sweet?
[Re: Olham]
The Pup is my personal favourite, so it does me good to know you are enjoying your time with her. I've mentioned it before, but the climbing turn performance of a Pup is excellent, and will take a long time for anything the Germans have to match. That can get you out of trouble if you need it.
As for Frisian. One of my ambitions is to cycle along the north coast of Europe from Calais to Copenhagen. (not happening this year because I need friends for this one. Too far to cycle on your own). Frisia occupies a decent proportion of that territory.
Eddie Izzard trying to buy a cow from a (west) Frisian speaking farmer using Old English. Incidentally; Scots is rather more like Old English than standard modern English because of medieval changes that were more prominent in the south east of England.