#4344253 - 03/14/17 11:51 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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... It's like car restoral. I'm more of the car-of-many-colored-panels type of guy, rather than the took-it-down-to-the-frame type. The difference of value is big, but chances are the red car with the blue hood and yellow front quarter panel gets driven a helluvalot more. All good points! There was a year where people bought a "car-of-many-colored-panels" brand new. It's not what you were talking about, but I guess it serves as an example of how wildly tastes can vary. My father's garage put these two cars together, they were a new blue Hillman Imp and a new white Hillman Imp, swapped the doors, bonnet(hood) and boot doors over and then fitted them out and painted them for Dumbarton Police to patrol Loch Lomondside apologies for the bad condition of the slide Article in a Dulux brochure: So swapping panels etc. has been going on for a while
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#4344301 - 03/14/17 03:38 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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That's brilliant, actually. Why paint any more than you have to?
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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#4344327 - 03/14/17 05:20 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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That's brilliant, actually. Why paint any more than you have to?
I was thinking the same thing! It probably wouldn't fly in a lot of places today though... Gotta be uniform, ya' know! Regulations, and all that...
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#4344359 - 03/14/17 06:40 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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Watched a T-51 homebuilt takeoff from our local Flyin in 2015. This guy lives over in Sleepy Eye. [video:youtube] https://youtu.be/0VrTyWTVYf4?t=128[/video]
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#4344653 - 03/15/17 09:25 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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I (heart) SimHQ. A thread about a 7/8ths scale aircraft in the model forum (kind of a mis-match) that goes afield to police cars with swapped doors and hoods. Still waiting on the crankshaft and prop hub.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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#4344802 - 03/16/17 03:22 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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Oh, I expect you to bring your own chasers if treating them as a main course. The whiskeys are in the flammable cabinet.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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#4344812 - 03/16/17 04:21 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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I found Dart to be a very congenial host.
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#4348015 - 03/31/17 04:43 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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Tear down of the engine has commenced...learning a lot about how it works.
Camera has been left twice at the airport, so I guess I'll share pics after the fact. As one can expect, there were some snags in the process - nothing ever seems to go smoothly with me - but it seems pretty straight forward.
I was doing some poor mouthing at the cost of the new crankshaft (200 USD) and the new prop hub (230 USD), when one of my EAA brothers gently told me to shut up. He's having to rebuild his certified Lycoming engine, and one lifter - just one - costs 400 USD. And there are eight.
I'm looking at just over a grand to fix the plane, including replacing the prop, two spars, recovering, and changing out the crankshaft...he's staring at ten thousand just for the engine and hoping it's enough.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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#4348020 - 03/31/17 05:29 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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I was doing some poor mouthing at the cost of the new crankshaft (200 USD) and the new prop hub (230 USD), when one of my EAA brothers gently told me to shut up. He's having to rebuild his certified Lycoming engine, and one lifter - just one - costs 400 USD. And there are eight.
I'm looking at just over a grand to fix the plane, including replacing the prop, two spars, recovering, and changing out the crankshaft...he's staring at ten thousand just for the engine and hoping it's enough. Damn... Yeah, that is the thing about whining... you have to be mindful of which audience you have. Dart, it sounds like you have made a lot of good choices for your circumstances. Flying is not an inexpensive hobby, but you have made choices that helped make it more economical than it is for many. Of course, all the work you put into it is another kind of 'expense', but you seem to take a lot of pleasure in that.
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#4348235 - 04/01/17 03:40 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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Oooh, pictures! Here's my guru, Dave, surveying the task ahead. Not the engine as much as teaching my dumb butt as we go along. Hmmm, so that's what a wrist pin is...neat. "Put a finger on the...[sproing]...so it won't fly across the hangar. Did you see where it went?" Most of the way to where we can split the case. But all the RTV Red stuff has to come off, so I spent some time with kerosene, a soft toothbrush, and some wooden sticks turning this: Into this: Valve push rod label cardboard holder thingie. Front left cylinder running a bit rich. Hmmm. Case split and we get to see some guts. Here's the prop hub, front bearing, and source of the problem: The silver thingie right at the start of the case, behind the hub, is the bearing. There's a little cup right behind it - it looks like a beveled piece - that is a kind of splash guard, and it's warped. Indeed, we could find no way for that front bearing to get oil but by having some just thrown on it from the engine. The prop hub just fell off without the bolt to hold it in; I thought the heat shrinking around the woodruff key would have kept it on. It may well be that the crankshaft is okay and the hub was katywhompus. But in for a penny, in for a pound, and the new crankshaft and hub will go in the engine. Pulling bits and pieces off. I am sorely lacking in tools and we couldn't pull the drive gear off of the shaft...I'll carry it someplace professional and beg them to do it for me. We're writing stuff down and marking stuff up on what goes where, and I'm making everything slow out of ignorance. Dave has been a helluva guy for displaying the level of patience with me that he has.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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#4348256 - 04/01/17 07:15 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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Great thread continues to evolve with Dart. But all the RTV Red stuff has to come off, I have to take a pic and show the reason why red RTV should require a licence. The previous person should be banned from all colors of RTV. Looks like Dart is in better hands. Edit: a pic of today's work and the WRONG use of red RTV. http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/96215733ee5183f534db3ff1f41782afca64bde.jpgEdit 2: Pic is from an engine I am rebuilding and not Dart's project.
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#4348477 - 04/02/17 03:09 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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And there I was thinking that aircraft engines work on PFM .
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#4349428 - 04/06/17 05:44 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
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Fortunately, a VW engine is dead simple.
And I need to fully understand how it works anyway. It's the only part of the aircraft (until now) that I hadn't assembled or built.
Tomorrow back at it.
Funny story on the camshaft drive wheel removal:
Lacking a puller that could grab the teeth properly for removal, I carried it to a couple places.
The parts store had the same type puller that I had borrowed, so no joy.
First mechanic shop told me that I'd have to go in line for repairs of any sort and that the soonest they could get to it was next week. I tried to explain that I had the crankshaft not only removed from the engine but in the cab of my truck and only needed the gear pulled off of it, but he was adamant. He also said he normal shop fee would apply. I didn't even ask what that would be. I was scandalized, to be honest, as this wasn't a dealer or a specialty shop, just a regular ol' mechanic shop.
The second shop I stopped into had three guys covered in grease eating lunch when I stepped through the door. One of them was smoking. "Reckon we can give it a shot, lemme finish my sammich, though."
We jawed about the engine - one of the guy was familiar with VW's being used on aircraft - as well as football, weather, dumb people and their cars in the bay as we installed the puller, and in short order it was off.
"Wadda I owe ya for it?"
"I dunno, whatcha figure?"
"Here's ten for the lunch I made you hurry up."
"Works for me."
I probably could have gotten away with a handshake.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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Exodus
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