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#4089432 - 03/09/15 01:43 AM Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries  
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Read an interesting article about how much the US military spends on off the self military simulations.
57 million last year. that's not including the simulations they have designed for them
I know we have a lot of serving and ex military on this forum from many nations.
What simulations did you use whilst in the army. Especially if they were available retail.


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#4089441 - 03/09/15 02:13 AM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: marko1231123]  
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Darewars.. A slightly illegal OFP. IE..the contractor STOLE some mod makers models.

Or DARWARS? I dont remember..

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#4089452 - 03/09/15 03:11 AM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: marko1231123]  
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It was the DARPA, and they called "their" Flashpoint mod DARWARS. Bohemia wasn't too amused at the time but I suppose they no longer complain. wink

#4089563 - 03/09/15 12:55 PM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted By: Ssnake
It was the DARPA, and they called "their" Flashpoint mod DARWARS. Bohemia wasn't too amused at the time but I suppose they no longer complain. wink


what better marketing them saying "used by the US Army"... thumbsup


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#4089572 - 03/09/15 01:09 PM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: marko1231123]  
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That ranks up there with "Military Grade"

Manufacturers think it makes a product sound like it's super durable, yet it makes me think it's the cheapest thing they could use that still kinda works.


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#4089581 - 03/09/15 01:19 PM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted By: Ssnake
It was the DARPA, and they called "their" Flashpoint mod DARWARS. Bohemia wasn't too amused at the time but I suppose they no longer complain. wink


Ssnake, does Krauss Maffei still use their own "tank simulator"? Knew a guy who was involved with that a couple of years ago.


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#4089659 - 03/09/15 03:41 PM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: Peally]  
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Originally Posted By: Peally
That ranks up there with "Military Grade"

Manufacturers think it makes a product sound like it's super durable, yet it makes me think it's the cheapest thing they could use that still kinda works.


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#4089873 - 03/09/15 10:26 PM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: Jayhawk]  
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Originally Posted By: Jayhawk
Ssnake, does Krauss Maffei still use their own "tank simulator"?

They do. At least they try selling it to their customers - not without success. Still, we just finished refurbishing one of theirs for Austria, expanding the functionality quite a bit while we were at it. smile

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what better marketing them saying "used by the US Army"... thumbsup

Well, I suppose back then they would have loved it more had it not been "pirated by the US Government", but "purchased by the US Army" instead.

#4090440 - 03/10/15 11:46 PM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: marko1231123]  
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As of a few years ago, the U.S. Army Command and General Staff School was using Combat Mission: Shock Force in some of their classes. Here's an article about it: http://www.benning.army.mil/Armor/ArmorMagazine/content/Issues/2012/NOVDEC12ARMOR_WEB.pdf#page=30

#4090446 - 03/11/15 12:05 AM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: marko1231123]  
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The Canadians were using SWAT 4 with a custom mod for urban tactics. I don't know about now.

http://www.moddb.com/games/swat-4-the-stetchkov-syndicate/downloads/canadian-forces-direct-action-41

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#4090468 - 03/11/15 01:47 AM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: marko1231123]  
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I wonder.
Without military funding what state the milsim market would be in
My guess it would be very impoverished.

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#4090487 - 03/11/15 03:03 AM Re: Off the shelf military simulations used by real militaries [Re: marko1231123]  
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I don't know. Sure, a few games/developers profit from it but what typically passes as a commercial game isn't of much use in training and education. Outside of this rather narrow field of T&E suitable programs the involvement of armies doesn't play a large role, for better or for worse.
Maybe armies could select from a broader range of products if they subsidized game developers on a broader scale but let's be honest, it wouldn't be politically palatable if tax dollars were seemingly wasted on rather unspecific "game development" in the hope that out of five or ten games on which money is spent, one useful product will eventually emerge.

IOW, the market is about as impoverished as it gets. wink


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