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#4088189 - 03/05/15 08:12 PM WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames  
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As title says PcGamer has WOFF mentioned in the top 20 Wargames of all time,a fantastic achievement.Absolutely brilliant OBD, link here http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-wargames-of-all-time/


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#4088192 - 03/05/15 08:15 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Well Done OBD!

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Kudos to OBD. No where the hell is the PC Gamer review? smile

"At some point circa 2001, sim devs lost interest in sumptuous dynamic campaigns. “Too expensive to build” they chorused, “make do with this limp line of scripted scenarios instead.” Combat Flight Simulator 3, one of the last sims to ship with mobile frontlines and meaningful sorties, is the stout branch on which this singular, singleplayer pampering payware mega-mod roosts. You choose one of 370 historically based Western Front squadrons, flying plausible randomly-generated missions until the Armistice arrives or the Grim Reaper reaps. Thanks to interesting mixed-ability AI, a nerve-fraying mechanical failure system, and a battlespace teeming with incidental activity, those missions rarely go according to plan. There’s not even any guarantee your kills will count: uncorroborated ‘claims’ sometimes fail to convince the tally-validating desk wallahs. Rise of Flight has the livelier flight models, but WOFF brings the 1914-18 air war to life more successfully than any of its peers."


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#4088204 - 03/05/15 08:37 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Well deserved, surely - and hopefully noticed and read by many gamers and simmers -
you long desreved this, OBD!


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#4088211 - 03/05/15 09:03 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Its a stupid list. I could mention at least ten wargames that were better than half of that list. DCS shouldnt be there for a start there is nothing special about their games. And is Steel Beasts better than M1 Tank Platoon? Not in my book it isn't. What about Red Baron 3d and B17, EF2000, Gunship 2000 and Apache Longbow? No its not a great list. If it said the ten best wargames 'that are still around' then that might make more sense, not that there is much choice these days.


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#4088224 - 03/05/15 09:30 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Woo very nice smile thanks to Tim Stone.

Thanks for posting Adger.

The top list of anything always has "where is this xxx, and I think xxx is better" but at least it's not the top 1094994 war games of all time eh..


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#4088226 - 03/05/15 09:41 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Yeah I agree... we're in the top 20 of a well-known and well-read PC Gaming magazine. Who cares about the other games in the list.. we're there.

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#4088231 - 03/05/15 09:48 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Nats...its a stupid list to you it isnt to me and i cant speak for anybody else because everybody has a different opinion on different games Etc....maybe it should have been a top 50 i think that would have been better and i assume in the top 20 they had to cut a few things down i suppose with it being only 20 they couldnt have to many sub sims,WW1 sims WW2 sims and so on i agree that there are a few i wouldnt have in but then maybe others would.The trouble is with lists on Gamesites (theres a top 100 best games ever over at Gamesradar) is that theres always going to be criticism of the said lists.The Gamesradar list doesnt have 1 sim in there,it even has dark souls as the best game ever haha .Its got Fallout 3 on the list but not Fallout New Vegas which IMO is a far far better Fallout game but thats their opinion and i have mine.Im just glad that WOFF has got a mention and hope that in doing so could potentially bring in some sales by the coverage that PCGamer has given OBD Software

Edit:Your very welcome Pol
Double edit:You guys do indeed rock OVS


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#4088232 - 03/05/15 09:57 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Good deal thumbsup
Hope it results in more people purchasing and flying WOFF.

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All "Top XXXX" lists are pure opinion unless they are being based on something like sales volume. I'm jus glad WOFF got some good exposure to people who may not have heard of it.


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#4088239 - 03/05/15 10:28 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Nice to see that BoB II get in there, too.

#4088240 - 03/05/15 10:32 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Nats;

I'm in no position to argue with you about the "Stupid list" and really it doesn't matter. All that matters is that the list gave visibility to OBD's WOFF and that is free advertising in my book.


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#4088250 - 03/05/15 11:05 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Exactly, Robert. The more people that know about WOFF the more that will buy it and that means we are closer to getting our wish list requests fulfilled. biggrin


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#4088259 - 03/05/15 11:23 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Well it was that article that got me to eventually buy WOFF, so from WOFF's point of view it is a very good article for exposure and sales.

I was surprised to see something like that in PC Gamer, its the first interesting thing they have had in the magazine for years, even though I completely disagree with it.


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#4088265 - 03/05/15 11:37 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: Adger]  
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Congratulations OBD, well deserved praise!


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Well done OBD, or maybe I should say well done that magazine - I never read any of them. But it is great that WOFF gets a mention even if some disagree with their ratings.

As a point of interest, 'Morris' is coming back - he used to play OFF back then and I spoke to him on the fone yesterday. He has bought WOFF and the Extension but had not installed it as he had some trouble with his 27" screen. He now has one of those new fancy screens - VSYNC or something like that so will be joining in. He talks of 100fps so must have a mega card in there.

I found his tel no in an old PM on CombatAce - he was not aware that most of the WOFF stuff is over here.


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Hats off.....no pun....OBD.

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That's very good news. thumbsup

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#4088493 - 03/06/15 01:11 PM Re: WOFF gets mentioned in top 20 Wargames [Re: JimAttrill]  
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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Well done OBD, or maybe I should say well done that magazine - I never read any of them. But it is great that WOFF gets a mention even if some disagree with their ratings.

As a point of interest, 'Morris' is coming back - he used to play OFF back then and I spoke to him on the fone yesterday. He has bought WOFF and the Extension but had not installed it as he had some trouble with his 27" screen. He now has one of those new fancy screens - VSYNC or something like that so will be joining in. He talks of 100fps so must have a mega card in there.

I found his tel no in an old PM on CombatAce - he was not aware that most of the WOFF stuff is over here.


My guess is that would maybe be a G-Sync monitor. The video card controls the refresh rate of the monitor, eliminating screen tearing and micro-stutters caused by frame rates being higher than the refresh rate. I would be interested to see what card he has too and what settings he uses for WOFF V2 once it's all set up. I'm always looking to improve.


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Originally Posted By: Hellshade
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Well done OBD, or maybe I should say well done that magazine - I never read any of them. But it is great that WOFF gets a mention even if some disagree with their ratings.

As a point of interest, 'Morris' is coming back - he used to play OFF back then and I spoke to him on the fone yesterday. He has bought WOFF and the Extension but had not installed it as he had some trouble with his 27" screen. He now has one of those new fancy screens - VSYNC or something like that so will be joining in. He talks of 100fps so must have a mega card in there.

I found his tel no in an old PM on CombatAce - he was not aware that most of the WOFF stuff is over here.


My guess is that would maybe be a G-Sync monitor. The video card controls the refresh rate of the monitor, eliminating screen tearing and micro-stutters caused by frame rates being higher than the refresh rate. I would be interested to see what card he has too and what settings he uses for WOFF V2 once it's all set up. I'm always looking to improve.


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Terrific to read of WOFF's most well deserved inclusion in that compilation.

Great recognition to OBD, for a labor of love that turned out to be as great a sim as WOFF has become.

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Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Nats;

I'm in no position to argue with you about the "Stupid list" and really it doesn't matter. All that matters is that the list gave visibility to OBD's WOFF and that is free advertising in my book.


Spot on.

Let's hope that OBD get a bit of a sales spike from this. It would be richly deserved.

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I agree about nats about the list--never even heard of half of these supposedly "best" games. But I also understand how WOFF's inclusion in any list like that is a great thing, so congratulations!

Now, here's hoping my CFS3 DVD *finally* arrives today so I can get the damn thing back in my computer! I need to do some, ah, sight-seeing in my Gotha.

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I know and have played 90% of the games there, and I have always thought about these kind of top 20 lists as eye-catcher for the gaming community, opinion by the authors , they don´t intend to be the bible. But you know, they attract lots of readers, and that´s why they are written and published. In this Best 20 Wargames, what I find odd is that it actually mixes wargames (tactical, grand strategy, operational, turn based, RTS, casual or grognard) with flight sims. So, the results are not very coherent. I actually like most of the games listed (specially WOFF, by the way, it´s on his own league... ), but...Ace Patrol by Sid Meier?? Really? biggrin

Great to have you inside the list OBD, you fully deserve it. Even if you are considered as a wargame company now wink

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Well deserved..this should be on every list with regards to top games!

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I just wish sometimes they would be a bit more imaginative in their lists of the best... instead of just picking the obvious games that are still played today. It would be good to see them do some stories (instead of the usual FPS, RTS babble) on less known about games like WOFF, EAW, and perhaps the rise in old games appearing on Steam like F19 Stealth Fighter or old recently remastered games like Lords of Midnight and Homeworld. There is so much good stuff around now being made by smaller companies, and its not getting any publicity because the media dwells on the same AAA candidates day in day out.

But I do still like this list (even though its stupid!), because it is a good way of seeing wargames you might not know about or have forgotten about. And any feature about wargames or flight sims is good these days, lets face it.

Interestingly talking about old wargames I noticed Steel Armor: Blaze of War on Steam a few days ago, which looks and feels a lot like the old M1 Tank Platoon, which is another old game I loved. Got to love some of the indie stuff being done today!


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only just read this, it's so cool, and congrats to OBD.
When I was in High School, I would go down to the local newsagent once a month and buy it. With my Rof score too, that's 2 titles in the top 20, awesome.

It's a reflection of just how creative and talented OBD are, the fact that this is a mod; a MOD, and it's recognised by a reputable industry publication, is incredible. I'm so grateful to have been allowed to be involved.


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Well, definitely deserved, Mat - your scores are among the finest I ever heard in games or sims.


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...I need to do some, ah, sight-seeing in my Gotha.


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