One thing I've predicted for years is that all the chip manufacturers would become equal at around 3nm to 7nm node size -- because that's close to the limit of "silicon". At that point, progress will be based on design ingenuity. We're fast approaching that point.

I also predicted that if AMD could "survive" until the 3nm to 7nm region, the stress on AMD would greatly abate -- because AMD would be virtually guaranteed to be "competitive" and competitors (primarily Intel, Nvidia) could not suddenly jump way ahead. This seems to be happening.

Original MSRP ain't bad. Since AMD makes more effective mining cards for the money spent, I expect AMD GPU prices to fall slightly slower than Nvidia prices.

Yes, but... The information is so vague, that its not worth discussing.

Example, they don't know the clock rates for sure. Example, they don't know if this is a gaming card or commercial card.

The good news is that testing on AMD 7nm GPUs is that far along. Gives something to look forward to as cryptocurrency mining slumps and GPU prices fall back to normal retail prices.

Performance wise, my Ryzen 7 1800X at 4.0GHz performance changed slightly. Single core measured the same. Multi-core was down roughly 1 percent. Other folks CPUs might behave differently.

Presumably, Windows 10 now does more good things and uses more CPU power in the background. Or, maybe its just slightly slower. Otherwise, it installed fairly quickly and has had no issues yet.

The thrust of the foregoing article is that Quad-core is dead among enthusiasts (still good for budget systems -- if the price is right). Kind of like this thread predicted a year ago when 8 core Ryzen hit the store shelves. These days, its about core count and bang per buck -- not single core boost frequency (an opinion).

Also, as previously mentioned, compare the "base frequency" of high core count CPUs from Intel and AMD. Base frequency is what they reliably run on all cores for long periods -- boost frequencies are short term deals for one or two cores on both AMD and Intel unless one provides cooling and overclocks (my 3 overclocked Ryzens run at or slightly above Boost Frequency on all cores all the time -- Ryzen 1800X, 1600X, 2400G -- some unlocked Intel CPUs also run near boost if cooled and OCd).

Interesting that Steam has routinely under-reported AMD use by Gamers. I always believed the Steam Intel/Nvidia vs AMD numbers -- dummy me. At least, they may be "un-stacking" the deck now.

AMD sales has not caught up. Intel/Nvidia remain on top, sales wise. I expect things to remain that way for at least a few years. Intel/Nvidia make great products (no one is wrong to buy them) -- but, so does AMD, and traditionally AMD gives more practical performance for one's Dollar, Euro, etc (currently GPUs still ridiculous). I expect the Intel/Nvidia lead to shrink over time, if properly reported.

Article lists products and some features

For those making near term to winter buying plans, the article has fairly good overview of new motherboard chipsets coming from AMD and Intel during that time

Update to above Steam overcounting article. Update is from Steam itself:

Nvidia Statement Article

GPP has been reported on above in this thread. GPP seemed "suspicious" to a lot of folks. Some predicted an eventual (years from now) lawsuit.

Nvidia says they are cancelling GPP and gives their side of the story in the above article.

Only one retailer's data. But, it indicates current sales trends. The chart shows how the various model CPU sales volumes stack up against each other.

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Bitcoin mining profitability is up 20 percent over the last month -- a small bounce back after the recent fall. However, mining difficulty is also steadily rising -- difficulty doubled since the new year began.

AMD GPU prices very slowly falling -- but high. For example, AMD Polaris RX580 currently runs in the $300+ range (one RX580 4G on sale today for $280). Last Black Friday, a friend got an RX580 8G on sale for about $190. Hopefully, things will be back to normal by next Black Friday.

Nvidia fans and those needing a GPU may have cause to celebrate. Interesting Nvidia article. Says prices are MSRP if bought directly from Nvidia site. Its due to a deliberate effort to bypass cryptocurrency mining (which seems to be going dead).



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The attached image gives the pictorial of what's available at what price. The article lists sale prices on custom cards.

Being an AMD fan, I have not verified all this

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A long article listing several possible reasons GPU prices were high. But, noting they are coming down. It may be an interesting read for someone interested in the causes of high prices.

Thing is, the article speculates prices will not get back to the old list prices -- because, due to high memory costs, they cost $50 to $100 more to make, and will be priced $100 to $200 more to compensate. The author is using educated guesstimates of memory costs and markups.

The article questions if the next release of AMD and Nvidia GPUs will have high enough FPS to justify their costs. He notes Nvidia is close to the next gaming-GPU release, and AMD is not saying much about AMDs next gaming release (until June).

I am holding out for an AMD GPU much better than I have for list price or less -- it must give bang per buck relative to my current card. The article indicates I may have to wait a while. But, the article is educated speculation (not verified fact). So, we'll see.

Our local MicroCenter store is having some "sale" prices on custom Nvidia cards. Evidence of the GPU price drop.

I assume prices will drop further. Nvidia is selling the reference model directly for the same or a bit less as noted above.

I assume AMD will drop slower because "dollar for dollar" they are better mining cards and in shorter supply. However, the cheapest RX580 I've seen is closing in on the GTX1060 pricing.

Some GPU sale prices continue downwards.

ZOTAC GTX1070Ti 8GB $450 today

ASUS RX580 4GB $250 today