X470? I thought we'd be able to use our existing X370's with new Ryzen chips...?

AMD says: You will be able to. Our current X370s and all the other current Ryzen MBs will work with Ryzen CPUs and upcoming Ryzen APUs -- for at least two or three years into the future.

One of AMD's selling points is that new CPUs do not need new Motherboards. With Ryzen they enhanced that to include their APUs on the same MB as their CPUs. So upgrades and moving components around among one's computers will be fairly easy and cheaper than it might have been.

The exception is Threadripper -- the Threadripper CPU is so large, it needs a special motherboard socket for Threadrippers. However, I assume that today's Threadripper MBs will work with Threadrippers coming out in 2020 or thereabouts.

I'm planning on getting a Ryzen 2800X to replace my Ryzen 1800X -- and just switch it out in my current system (for fun -- it won't be a lot faster -- maybe 10 percent). My wife gets my current Ryzen 1800X -- if all goes to plan.

I like Nvidia's plan. Hope it actually works (as opposed to "appear" to work).



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There's an idea. AMD opens a retail site that sells cards at list price -- to gamers only. I imagine such a direction has multiple associated problems -- probably not as simple as it sounds.

For example, I imagine many miners would find a way to create 100 separate orders -- that seemed separate -- that seemed from 100 different gamers-- but, were from one miner guy/gal. Hey, they want cards cheaper too -- its all about "bang per buck" with them.

We'll see how this works out for Nvidia.

Ryzen 7 1800X (8core/16thread) "on sale" at Newegg $340. They are still showing the "old" $500 list price -- maybe this is old stock that they paid more for. However, the new official list price is supposed to be only $350.

Installed my $100 (overpriced) RX550 2GB half height GPU in the HTPC yesterday. It works -- runs cool and quiet. No surprise there.

I installed Steam in the HTPC and will try a couple games to see what it can do -- but this is not a gaming setup. We use the HTPC in our ballroom to study advanced Dancesport technique.

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Hopefully, this is not bleeding over to AMD CPU performance. So far, in what I do, I haven't noticed anything.

To check for slowdown due to a Windows patch, I run a quick benchmark everyday. But it's only a quick one (CPU-Z) that checks local CPU speed. So far, no change. 466 single thread, 5005 16 thread, 10.74 ratio is normal on my machine.

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Looking at the price and the specifications -- my RX550 with separate CPU for my HTPC is out classed. In the future, I'll be using AMD APUs for HTPC and other non-high-end-gaming PCs.

Moderate graphics stress games (or high stress games with medium settings) can be played on the Ryzen 5 2400G (on paper, it looks faster than my RX550 performance).

It was $11250 at the moment I wrote this. So, this new news does not necessarily mean Bitcoin will truly crash. But, it was $17,000+ just over 2 weeks ago.

In a nutshell, they say Koduri was excellent but overwhelmed by doing two jobs. Now, to replace Koduri, they have two very experienced talents to do those two jobs.

Intel is being up front. At first, they downplayed the issue. The solution comes at the end of 2018 for some new products -- older CPUs (up to 10+ years older) can't be fixed (only worked around).

Depending on how the industry handles this (example, a Windows 10 change that does not discriminate among CPUs), current AMD CPUs and APUs may be strongly affected or little affected.

However, the Intel problems seem minimal during game play that does not access the internet, LAN, or hard drive frequently (i.e., you'll never "see" a problem). So, high boost frequency Intel CPUs are probably still the best choice for older single or dual core games played single-player -- if highest possible measured FPS is the goal.

For higher core count games, AMD Ryzen gives more cores per dollar (usually) that are competitive with Intel at similar clocks (i.e. Intel lead in final FPS normally not visible -- per core per clock).

But, the issue has not settled down, yet. So, we'll see what the "future" holds for AMD regarding this issue.

The likelihood of this being exploited is so low... First someone would have to compromise your system, then know what system environment you're running, and lastly know what even to look for.

The browsers have already been patched, and they would be the weakest link in getting hacked.

Agree. This is not really a problem for normal, everyday PC users. I think the only thing that will make it a problem for folks like us is the "fix" demanded by the "commercial" users. It may cut our performance unnecessarily.

Had the whole thing been "kept secret", probably nothing needed doing. But, the CPU users with "big money on the line" won't take the chance some bad folks would figure things out. Can't blame them.

Evidently, cryptocurrencies are easier to steal in quantity. As usual, I'm interested in how cryptocurrencies are doing because I want the price of GPUs for gamers to drop back to "list or lower".

EPYC is AMD's high core count server CPU. AMD said Threadripper was not merely a "cut down" EPYC. Threadripper was special.

One AMD aficionado was not sure. So, he disassembled and x-rayed (literally) a Threadripper and an EPYC.

He confirmed, they are two different CPUs (mostly). They have some packaging similarities. But, the silicon looks significantly different.

I personally assume AMD could double the Threadripper to 32cores/64Threads "overnight" (in a manner of speaking). The room to do so is there in the package. So, the future looks good for much higher core counts.

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Interesting because its a relatively new phase of cryptocurrency crime. Also because guns were involved -- in Britain.

In addition, more articles about GPUs and cryptocurrency. But, they're all sounding alike -- GPUs will be very expensive for a very long time. Too bad for me, I wanted to buy one soon.

AMD's future is looking up.

Its notable that Intel's higher prices are somewhat due to lower Intel company efficiency -- not because they are that much better than AMD, the writer says.

The industry is starting to notice (e.g. Dell, HP) because lower component costs mean more sales and higher profits for their pockets.

From a PC gaming enthusiast perspective, I hope Samsung and the companies they sell to come up with a cheaper (than a GPU) custom cryptocurrency chip device soon -- for the obvious reason that the miners would switch to that (all about money to them) -- making GPUs affordable to us gamers again.

The words used were "currently engaged in the manufacturing". Hopefully, the means they are being built today and the non-GPU mining-devices will arrive "soon" (probably still months away).

The companies see that cryptocurrency mining is probably here to stay for much longer than they anticipated. So, they are increasing production of cryptocurrency mining cards. Not all are GPUs -- example, the Samsung note above.

Dr. Su says memory is the issue. No doubt memory production does lag demand significantly these days -- even I notice that when I've bought memory recently. But, might that observation also be a way to deflect a little criticism from gamers (rhetorically).

In any case, as many articles have pointed out, silicon chips must be ordered many months in advance. Moreover, many modern memory types are affected by the shortage, articles say. So, the needed memory may be hard to get until the second half of this year (or longer). Just depends on when they ordered it (if they ordered it).

The GPU shortage and high prices will continue for now.

A long and mostly positive article regarding AMDs Q4 earnings report. The stock seems up over 700 percent in the last 3 years or so. Wish I had some

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As one can see in the first chart, the AMD Ryzen APU can be substantially cheaper than an Intel/Nvidia system of the same performance (in Timespy benchmark) -- and use less power. More detail in the Article -- with independent tests.

For accuracy, Newegg shows the i5-8400 at $190 today, and the GT 1030 lowest price as $80 -- $270 total. Ryzen 5 2400G to list at $170 -- not out yet.

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