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#4061462 - 01/09/15 04:32 AM Janes F18 not installing W7/64  
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Hi guys.

I have my game cd, when I try to install either by clicking jauto.exe or setup.exe, no go, dont get the wizard up. I have tried as admin and different compat modes and anti-virus is disabled.

Thoughts? Cheers.


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#4062302 - 01/10/15 11:36 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Oh come on...


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#4062338 - 01/11/15 01:18 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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I feel your pain. Sadly, I can only fly Jane's F/A 18 on an old WinXP Machine.


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#4062385 - 01/11/15 03:15 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
I feel your pain. Sadly, I can only fly Jane's F/A 18 on an old WinXP Machine.


Well thanks for answering, sir, I guess I got to stick with the vrs rhino for now.r


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#4062576 - 01/11/15 05:43 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Hi, Helo_Head,

A stupid question, but how long did you wait after launching setup.exe ? I remembered it took ages for the program to kick in when I installed Jane's F/A 18 under Seven and 8.1
I went in my kitchen to make coffee and read some newspaper for quite a while; eventually, when I came back the installer was active and from there things unfolded flawlessly.

Not sure if this helps, but that's how I succeeded in installing the sim.

Best of luck.





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#4063093 - 01/12/15 09:12 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Well I only waited a minute or 2 so will try your approach, cheers.

Will advise.


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#4063437 - 01/13/15 04:44 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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*sigh*

no go.


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#4063555 - 01/13/15 11:25 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Andromedius]  
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Originally Posted By: Andromedius
Hi, Helo_Head,

A stupid question, but how long did you wait after launching setup.exe ? I remembered it took ages for the program to kick in when I installed Jane's F/A 18 under Seven



Same with me Andromedius, however, 12 months ago I built a new machine for DCS upgrading to Windows 7 Pro 64 with an i7 and R290.

After installing the OS I found I could not install Catalyst Control Centre or the ATI driver from disc as the OS had overuled and installed its own graphics driver which, no matter how many times I uninstalled in Device Manager upon restart it would always re-install, under this regime I was able to install Janes F/A - 18 and TSH 4 and to my amazement, it ran flawlessly until November 2014.

I recall when installing Janes that it took easily, two to three hours, after clicking setup.exe I would see the splash screen and blue progress bar run to 99% whereupon it remained for a minute or so then disappear, I remained waiting for a bit, expecting the next window to open, it didn't appear to be happening so, I went about my business elsewhere. Much later when i returned, the familiar setup process was underway just waiting on me to click Next etc.....happy days

November 2014

Testing a mod for a DCS developer he advised I needed an updated graphics driver - I cannot recall how I managed to install the updated driver and Catalyst Control Centre but I did!

He also advised that I should check I had my R290 plugged into the yellow PCIe socket and not the brown or black ones - I had to move mine into the yellow socket (perhaps this is how I managed to update the driver?).

Anyway, after doing the above my Janes F/A - 18 didn't work so, I uninstalled and tried re-installing many times, always having to wait before I was finally aware of the menu music playing, strange thing this time, is that I can't get TSH 4 to work however TSH 3 one click installer is the way to go.

When installing I always use setup.exe as Administrator and open Windows Task Manager.

In Windows Task Manager under processes look for an entry called _ins5576._mp I don't know what it is other than that it remains when setup.exe disappears from the list.

I just tried running Janes' setup.exe with it already installed, from the time the 99% bar disappeared it took 1 hour to get any feedback which was a severe warning that Janes F/A18 was not suited to NT etc.

I clicked OK and the _ins5576._mp terminated in task manager.

I suspect the severe warning is a consequence of it already being installed?

And I recall issues with UV.DLL being recognised as malware.

Certainly happy here with my install, I hope something I've said above might be a hint or a help in getting anyone who's struggling to install this still brilliant simulator.

#4063961 - 01/14/15 10:18 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Yeah, still no go.

Oh well, at least Falcon BMS still runs fine.


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#4063999 - 01/15/15 12:34 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Originally Posted By: Helo_Head
Hi guys.

I have my game cd, when I try to install either by clicking jauto.exe or setup.exe, no go, dont get the wizard up. I have tried as admin and different compat modes and anti-virus is disabled.

Thoughts? Cheers.


Perhaps your disc is faulty?

Have you tried installing from an iso?

#4064019 - 01/15/15 01:14 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: ddoc]  
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Originally Posted By: ddoc
Originally Posted By: Helo_Head
Hi guys.

I have my game cd, when I try to install either by clicking jauto.exe or setup.exe, no go, dont get the wizard up. I have tried as admin and different compat modes and anti-virus is disabled.

Thoughts? Cheers.


Perhaps your disc is faulty?

Have you tried installing from an iso?


Funny you ask, yes I tried that too.

Cheers.


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#4064721 - 01/16/15 04:39 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Perhaps you can try the instructions in the following link as I believe you cannot even run setup.exe?

The routine in the following link was devised specifically for folks encountering your same problem.

Let us know how you get on?

http://www.team-super-hornet.net/index.php/forums/6/1950

#4064964 - 01/17/15 02:43 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Have you tried install in safe mode? I just rebuilt a Dell Dimension 4400 desk top. Loaded Windows XP pro. Saved patch v1.01f to cd. Started computer in safe mode and put FA/18 cd in. It opened and I clicked install. Bingo. After installing I put patch cd in and opened it. My game runs great though I have to insert FA/18 cd to open. Good luck, Buzz

#4064966 - 01/17/15 02:51 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Forgot to add. If game installs and you have a desktop icon, right click properties and go to compatibility. I tried all modes until game opened in windows 2000 compatibility. Then I clicked run in 256 colors and 640 x 480. Buzz

#4065081 - 01/17/15 01:06 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: buzzbomb]  
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Originally Posted By: buzzbomb
Saved patch v1.01f to cd... After installing I put patch cd in and opened it.

Important note: if you intend to use the One Click Updater, do NOT install the 1.01F patch.


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#4065277 - 01/17/15 10:12 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: ddoc]  
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Originally Posted By: ddoc
Perhaps you can try the instructions in the following link as I believe you cannot even run setup.exe?

The routine in the following link was devised specifically for folks encountering your same problem.

Let us know how you get on?

http://www.team-super-hornet.net/index.php/forums/6/1950



I understand the instructions but am getting stuck with this:

"After you installed NSIS and the registry plugin you can build the installer by right click on JanesFA18Setup.nsi and click on "Compile NSIS Script"."

I dont have a "setup.nsi", I see a "setup.ins" however and when I right on that and try to compile, the compiler returns an error.

For me, its getting to the point where I seriously question if its even worth it now. But thanks.


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#4065278 - 01/17/15 10:14 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: buzzbomb]  
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Originally Posted By: buzzbomb
Have you tried install in safe mode?


Good idea, just tried it, no dice: just closes with "not compatible with NT" etc, have tried all compat modes in safe mode no go. Cheers.


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#4065942 - 01/19/15 07:24 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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I managed to run F/A-18 on Win7/64 successfully (however, audio issues means the game crashes in-training, unless you start off with a fresh roster). However, waiting for the on-disc installer to get past 99% took me upwards to 30 minutes (I only checked on Run as Admin in Compatibility settings). May have been 60. Or 90. Anyway, it took a lot of patience.

Yeesh, I hope your problem gets fixed soon.

#4066476 - 01/20/15 09:32 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Well, even after re-formatting my Win7 machine will not run Jane's F/A-18. I can install. Install TSH v3.06. Still, no joy.


Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.


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Are your video drivers up to date?

Is your 3.06 the one click installer?

For what it is worth, the following are my machine specs with no overclocking:

Intel Core i7 4770K
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#4066567 - 01/20/15 02:41 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Yes, video drivers are up to date.

Yes I used the v3.06 One Click Installer.

My system specs are in my signature.


Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.


#4069188 - 01/25/15 05:10 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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It may be that the program has a 16 bit installer and it won't run on a 64 bit os. Can you just run it through DosBox?

#4069981 - 01/27/15 05:09 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Bede19025]  
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I have had similar results attempting to install JF18 (esp. "Severe: Program not compatible with NT4" error). I had it running on this exact 7 system less than 6 months ago, must be Windows updates for that to be the case. There's no chance of running it through DOSBox, it's one of those awkward 95/98 vintage games that is too new for DOS.

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I give up.


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Gents, copy your CD to an ISO, then use a virtual disk drive to try and install it.

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Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
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#4073394 - 02/03/15 08:51 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Rudel]  
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Originally Posted By: Rudel
Gents, copy your CD to an ISO, then use a virtual disk drive to try and install it.


Good idea, but already tried that, sir. Cheers.


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#4074662 - 02/06/15 05:22 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Ghost and Helo_Head, send me a PM with a contact e mail address and i'll send you a link, dropbox or torrent, to get F\A-18 installed on your system?

Let me know your preference, dropbox or torrent?

With immense help from Tomcat over at TSH, this should solve your problems.


Dave

If anyone else is having problems getting the Janes F\A-18 installer to run on Win 7 64bit then, drop me a PM.

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#4076211 - 02/09/15 11:03 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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This did the trick.

I only needed to run it as wxp sp3 in compat mode.

Little bit of configuration with the controller setup in the ts3manager.

Runs with my x65f and track ir.

Cheers!

...now, who to try this online with?


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#4076759 - 02/10/15 09:58 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Flew a few missions now in Campaign.

Funny thing: hideous grafix, excellent gameplay.


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#4076843 - 02/11/15 01:05 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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the graphics are from 1999/2000... so not really hideous considering the time it was released in.

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Originally Posted By: Lion
the graphics are from 1999/2000... so not really hideous considering the time it was released in.


Yeah, I know, I still remember how excited I was the day I bought it in 1999. Longbow and F15 as well.

It was awesome in its day. Though I have flown Falcon online since 1998, though, I never got around to flying JF18 online. How well does it fly online?


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#4077796 - 02/13/15 12:00 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: ddoc]  
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Originally Posted By: ddoc
....With immense help from Tomcat over at TSH, this should solve your problems.


Do you have Tomcat's NSIS-Install-Script? I'd like to host it on TSH and Jane's F/A Resource.

#4077904 - 02/13/15 04:53 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Hey Helo_Head, just to answer you question, It flies great! there are some rules of thumb to follow on hosting that help with multi-player sessions. Right now there is a max limit of 8 pilots online at once in a mult-player session. Connections are stable if everyone is flying the same version. TSH v3.06 is the recommended version to use, both by VFA-41 and TSH. We are always looking to fly with other pilots....

come check us out http://vfa-41.net/

We use Hyperlobby to connect for multi-player and ventrilo for voice comms.


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If you happen to come across this install script.... Please let me know, I'd also like to have it hosted at http://vfa-41.net/

Thanks


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#4402097 - 01/27/18 04:55 PM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Thread necromancy... I tried an old ISO I had, no dice, it wouldn't install.

So I just got a CD off eBay... still won't install. Win7 x64. Can anyone help? Difficult since TSH is mostly gone and VFA-41 is gone.


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#4402347 - 01/29/18 04:18 AM Re: Janes F18 not installing W7/64 [Re: Boomer]  
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Way over in Perth, Western Aus...
Did you try different compatibility modes - eg win98 etc?


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I did. I've come to the conclusion that a Windows update is responsible. I wiped the system clean this weekend and it installed just fine. I then tried installing Windows 10 and then installing all the old Janes sims before doing any system updates. That also worked.

I'll probably leave it on Windows 10 for now. We'll see. Just because everything installed doesn't mean it'll run well. wink


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