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#4069284 - 01/25/15 09:22 PM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Any ideas about your future military?

Will you try to concentrate on something like a mechanized army or strong navy/air force or try for a balanced force?


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

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#4069316 - 01/25/15 10:53 PM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Uhm, considering I'm trying to align to the Allies and that they will easily rule the Mediterranean (No assault on Malta for me...) I'm going not to evolve the Navy. (Which is a shame as I have actually some bonuses for naval units due to past history)

I'm going to push Mechanized infantry, some Heavy Armor, but basically multi-capable Mechanized Infantry.
Given the sheer amount of mountainous areas over all my regions it's best, probably.

I'm also going to try and give aviation (Close Air Support and fighters but NOT pure bombers) a push-

There's a good deal of the infantry tech tree that allows me to give it a very wide range of additional toys as to make them really ready for anything.

I'm mostly concerned with preserving territories and boundaries than attacking. At least early on...


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#4070312 - 01/27/15 10:33 PM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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That's how I feel now.



Just went through the Hearts of Iron III manual and found out a great deal of helpful information.

At this point I almost deserve to lose the savegame and get the PC destroyed by Cthulhu.




Also, I'm playing- some more AAR tonight...


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#4070339 - 01/28/15 12:03 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Ok, so- this time I ran almost 3 months of war stuff as there's little precious happenings... (even though I was laughing all the time as I was listening to Dos Gringos!)

Just before the year's end the eggheads wrote a couple books about mechanical design and improvement for our
Factories and themselves. Bravi ragazzi!



On the other hand toward January the alignment of our political axis is tilted so much toward Allies that we can almost feel it.
The screen is probably a bit cluttered for those who don't play but I think it can be seen in the bottom right corner the values.

We are at 51.55 points of neutrality and we need 50 to join the Allies. Soon! smile



And more good news from the Eggheads. A new type pf mechanical calculator that is going to simplify many of our calculations and researches.




Aaaand... yep, that's it. Nothing happened.
I did actually prepped more forts and AAA stations for the Austrian border- but they take at least three or four months to show so...

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#4070350 - 01/28/15 12:35 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Originally Posted By: komemiute
That's how I feel now.





well, the one thing to console us all in wargaming is, that whatever things we failed, real history holds still holds a handfull of guys, trained and paid for the job, that still underscore everything

;=)

#4070484 - 01/28/15 09:58 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Duce, We have invented..... The Adding Machine!

We are still working on the Subtraction machine...Apparently turning the handle the other way round doesn't work. smile

The Multiplication machine is in prototype stage, it still answers every question with "42". biggrin

And the Divison machine has our engineers stumped.....They understand the concept of division, its just getting a machine to understand it as well..... mycomputer


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#4071496 - 01/29/15 11:53 PM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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It's tough to write an AAR for such a game- even more when nearly a whole year was lost due to the game lock-up... frown
I replayd what I could, having both kids sick, but it may take a time before I manage to report.

Sorry guys. :/


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#4071670 - 01/30/15 02:22 PM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Is your fleet still at Taranto?

*launches HMS Illustrious*

just kidding. smile


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#4071897 - 01/30/15 10:42 PM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Here it comes: Mind y'all, as nothing was really happening I just mashed pedal to the metal- i.e.: maximun time acceleration with a hand on the "handbrake" Spacebar.

That way events were much more closer and I still had a very decent control on everything.
That way I also recovered the time lost with the hung game and reached the initial phases of the interesting part.
Because, let's face it- WWII without a Worldwide conflict it just ain't the same. smile
With all due respect to such a serious matter- of course.


As can be seen here situation is going great:
You can notice that the numbers on top of the screen are all green- which means that we are increasing our stockpile of whatever it's the icon for (Energy, Metal, Rare materials, Crude Oil - Industry is all green, no points wasted - Supplies, oil for transports, and Money)



During the year of grinding for our population, from the brighter of the scientists to the simplest of the wood worker, many excellent discoveries were made.














This alone is good news,

as finally I can go and fix all the infrastructures (Roads, Railroads, Powerlines, Telephone ones... etc.) in my region, no matter the actual state...

Which is clearly needed, notice yellow, orange and red areas...


Remember winning their hearts and their minds!


The military had its share of advancements, with the driving force of the creation of-
1) the most experienced infantry and the first real mechanized force:



Steps toward better infantry...






For priding ourselves of the most experienced infantry we need at least, then, to deliver to our mountain troops the necessary equipment:
Here it's highlighted the requirements. Green star is one less to research, Red star we ain't there yet.


There...

This finally grants me research to Mountain Warfare Equipment...


But the juicy parts is undoubtedly the Political news...

Good for the Kiwis...


Ouch for this part of independent China... First to fall to the Japanese invasion intervention...


Rather than falling to the Japanese, this Chinese province is siding with the Russian front. Uhm...


Ok, THIS is big... The Chinese were literally ground down. Colour me impressed.
Unfortunately due to fog of war I couldn't see any of this happening...


All well for me? Maybe...

-Continue-

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#4071926 - 01/30/15 11:51 PM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Here it comes:

I'll try and continue previous post's layout- I think it works better for this sort of "recap", even if this time I invert some things starting with the World Political Situation and answer previous post last question... in short- No.

As a matter of fact a separatist faction in Africa, mainly composed of newly baptized "Italians", decided they are ready for a Civil War and Independence.
Uhm, let me think... Think real hard... Ehr- no. You don't.



With some of the lessons acquire from RTFM I now know I can move my soldiers quite faster using Trains. All together. And with no losses due to climate, forced marches and so on. Well, right about time to test the new equipment and training, right?
Onward.


Still not fast enough- they are essentially marching unopposed. Such are dreams of ignorance...


But I'm closing in...


I can almost imagine the chants and the hopes of these... these... people.

That also marks the meeting engagement. (Number 89 means the percentage of WIN we are having right now)


We experience a little setback as the bad weather is hindering our superior equipment...
Over twenty thousand trained troops are hardly at work against roughly nine thousand militans...

And we achieve an easy victory.


We move again to "pacify" the troubled areas.

Winning their hearts and minds... uhm. It loses its flavour when it comes after such a bloodbath...

On the Mainland we continue our streak of researches:





Increasing our specialisation.




The military had its next share of advancements, Mountain Warfare Equipment above all is ours.


But the mechanized infantry requires more work... and after all this small work-





-now we can start researching the right tanks for the Mechanized Force


Medium tanks are those we need- Time to work for real



I was really ready to walk off to bed smiling for a job well done when... THIS

happened...

Needless to say- where I was so confident of my defenses, now I feel pathetic... Oh Gods, will I be France, Part Deux?


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#4071933 - 01/31/15 12:17 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Interesting developments, especially Japan conquering China. That could facilitate a German/Japan attack on the USSR.

Seems like you're doing good. Getting your industry in shape should be indeed a top priority. How's the oil/fuel situation for Italy?


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

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#4071937 - 01/31/15 12:29 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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We'll see, I guess. I'm a bit scared- I mean that's all stuff that should have happened anyway, but the feeling of the small fish in a too large pond... Not nice! skyisfalling

As for your question: luckily, with all the trading and the internal resources Oil is not a problem, even better since I'm specializing my industry to improve the refining and efficiency.
Anyway I'm doing all I can to stockpile as much as I can of everything!


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#4072608 - 02/02/15 12:14 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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One more dash into this-


The game started off quite bad, with me seeing this and believeing for a second Switzerland was invading me!

jawdrop

Luckily it's just a GUI dud, and it was just meant to reach here...




On with the game:
Science discovery for the masses...





And some more... useful- than others...




Pushing the research queue, you'll notice in the left hand side a yellow and a red research.

That means I'm asking too much- but the dates are OK for me so... so be it!

Pushing it even more- we HAVE to get to those improved AT guns and Ammunitions! IN FRETTA!




While the military leaders were instead really happy to see these...



Along with theoretical studies for the mobile doctrines...

and infantry doctrines...

and Artillery ones too.


We develop new Battlefield Doctrines too- Useful for the future for sure.



More Hardware for the ragazzi...






Even if it costs me dearly in production terms, I think it's worthy...



Ooh, that's good. Proper Mountain Equipment for my beloved "Alpini" and some needed Operational Level Organisation development.

Yeah, like we can put Italians and Organisation in the same sentence!

FINALLY! Medium Tank brigade is what we need to build the Mechanized Infantry Divisions! YEAH!

There's some work to do though...

Basic values are poor. Poorest of the poor.
We need to change that- so I start to research all sort of advances in what will be the backbone of my Mech. Inf.


And as having better Engines make the tanks more vulnerable (I uh... guess :/ ) I obviously need to improve the overall reliability.



Honestly I think it IS logical. I really like these Tech Trees! biggrin

Politically speaking someone notice I'm drifting away from the Axis and don't like it.
I was really afraid something like this could happen... Japan is twisting my arm in staying put-

Ouch- but what does it REALLY means? Let's find out.

Hidden under the Historical-wall-of-text(tm) there would be my flag and the Japanese one too

What the numbers imply is that (first three lines):

I'm drifting my political class towards Allies for 8.41 points.
The break down of how this number is calculated falls under the (Allies) some lines below.
Basically 7.71 of those points it's me trying to wriggle out of the Fascist yoke the rest is still me only dealing with allied nations or simply by being close to some of them (nominally France in Europe and England in Africa).

I'm also drifting 7.38 points towards Axis and again the break down is lower in that text box
6.52 is Japan twisting my arm to stay where I am.
Notice how yellow numbers are factors that cause me to drift "right" and how those red ones are actually actions that make me drift AWAY from the Axis.
In this very case the sum of the threat of Germany so close and armed, and how close to the Axis Italy is already (it works as a safety measure to avoid a Black-Hole event horizon sort of thing that would cause otherwise me to keep on accelerating towards a faction)

I have a minimal "left" drift due to the commercial relations to Russia (big help, if I may say so- economically speaking) and some due to being close to some Leftists countries...

Sorry for the useless explanation. :P


Internally some Minister believes he can just come up and kick guys he deemed too soft from their rightfully elected seats.
I do not like this, you bully. I go for "There's no need" and save myself from some quite heavy (and rightfully felt) revolts...


I like to think this is connected to my good choices! biggrin



Now, Far East looks bleaker and bleaker...





As usual (I swear the game does it for me on purpose), I'm pretty happy with my doing, and such things pop up- AGAIN.



Somehow it almost (very very almost) makes me feel like being there. I can see where all this is going and I can't do anything to help- Just shake my head in disbelief.

Till next gaming night... (providing kids are well enough)

Side thought of the day.
Kids are equally part "Sweetness of the Heart" and "Guerrilla Warfare". smile


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#4072713 - 02/02/15 09:27 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Really digging this.

Keep it up.

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Yeah, good read. yep

SO far it looks like Italy is doing everything right. Don't alienate any of the big players, build up your economy and military and wait for the right moment to join the fray for maximum profit.

I'm really looking forward to see how things turn out once the shooting starts.


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

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#4072731 - 02/02/15 11:42 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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Thank you all.

I'm certainly trying to keep things simple , in the Nation's best interests.

The downside is that until someone starts the firing, this AAR can be a bit boring and somewhat detached from a proper timeline.

On the other hand it posseses some sort of looming feeling.

More tonite, I hope.


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Did you "Crush the Rebellion with one, swift, stroke" ?

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AHAHHAHAHA.
Ehrm... let's say in a sort of way, yes. wink
I feel a whole lot of worse, thank you. biggrin


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Don't worry, the AAR isn't boring. Stay with and we will.


Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
#4073091 - 02/03/15 09:13 AM Re: Italy at war - The alternate history of WWII [Re: komemiute]  
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I was about to say. It's an unusual approach to a well-worn topic, and it allows us uninformed readers to glimpse a bit at some of the complexities that otherwise get lost in das yellin' an' screamin' an' bombsgedroppen.

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