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#4057072 - 12/29/14 08:45 AM Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming  
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I agree. 1998 was the best year to be a flight sim fan...that's for sure. They don't mention any flight sims in the article however.


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#4057077 - 12/29/14 09:32 AM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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Falcon 4.0, Jane's Longbow 2, Fighter's Anthology, and F-15 were great contenders in '98

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#4057080 - 12/29/14 09:59 AM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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Grand Prix Legends is from 98. Still going strong with the amazing Spa 67 release this holiday.


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#4057098 - 12/29/14 11:30 AM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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A strong yearning for nostalgia creates an inherent bias in articles like that. I've been gaming on the pc since about 1989 and I can say that there have been great games to play every year. There's no way I could limit it to one "best year".


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#4057104 - 12/29/14 11:46 AM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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GPL, EAW, Falcon 4. It says a lot that these games are all alive and well, almost 17 years after they came out. Wonder how many will be playing Call of Duty in 17 years' time.


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#4057112 - 12/29/14 12:18 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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The best year for flight sims? The answer would vary depending on your vintage of course.

For me it would be much earlier,probably about '92-'93.On my day off,which was a Monday I would go into town and visit EVERY outlet that sold PC games. There were a couple that I would visit most days in my lunch hour too. The visits would get more frequent just before a much anticipated release (usually a Microprose game). Kid in a sweet shop? You bet biggrin

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#4057121 - 12/29/14 12:46 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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For me 1998 was THE best year because European Air War was released. IMO the best air combat sim ever. This current PC (about 8 months old Win 8.1) is the first one since Oct 98 that has not had EAW installed. I still have the disc and the manual. I really don't know why; but for me it was the most immersive game ever.


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#4057171 - 12/29/14 02:36 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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Red Baron 2 came out in 1997 and RB 3D in 1998.

Looking up the date I found Damon Slye tried to do a kickstarter for Red Baron with Mad Otter Games. It was canceled because of a poor response. Never knew they tried.

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Originally Posted By: kail

Looking up the date I found Damon Slye tried to do a kickstarter for Red Baron with Mad Otter Games. It was canceled because of a poor response. Never knew they tried.

That's a shame. I had no idea about that kickstarter either. It looks like Rise of Flight and OFF will be IT as far as PC WWI flight sims go for a very long time.


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#4057213 - 12/29/14 03:36 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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Have to agree with Archie, Il2 is the best prop sim but I had a lot more fun with EAW...

#4057220 - 12/29/14 03:51 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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I think we also got Rainbow Six, Delta Force and SpecOps: Rangers Lead the Way.

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#4057235 - 12/29/14 04:06 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
A strong yearning for nostalgia creates an inherent bias in articles like that.



I think there is more to it then that Panzer. Before 98games didn't have very good graphics so they relied on good story telling and immersion to suck the player in. In 98 we saw a pretty good leap in graphics with Voodoo cards and 3D boards in general. So for a brief periodwe had both. They still had the ideology of immersion and they were really starting to suck you in with graphics too.

I would say that's true for 98,99 and some of 2000. After thatthe focus was more about graphicsand then more graphics, graphics, graphics and graphicsoh yeahdon't forget the eye candy.

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#4057245 - 12/29/14 04:11 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: kail

Looking up the date I found Damon Slye tried to do a kickstarter for Red Baron with Mad Otter Games. It was canceled because of a poor response. Never knew they tried.

That's a shame. I had no idea about that kickstarter either. It looks like Rise of Flight and OFF will be IT as far as PC WWI flight sims go for a very long time.


OFF is dead (not really in fact), long live WOFF!

And about the ill-fated RB kickstarter:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4051901/The_new_Red_Baron_game_kicksta#Post4051901


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#4057254 - 12/29/14 04:30 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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Don't forget the Windows 98 update for Tie Fighter and X-Wing that came out in 1998.


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#4057259 - 12/29/14 04:39 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Force10]  
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2001 was a good year for gaming. Operation Flashpoint, Ghost Recon, Alien vs Predator 2 and IL-2 all came out that year.


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#4057321 - 12/29/14 07:08 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted By: Chucky
The best year for flight sims? The answer would vary depending on your vintage of course.

For me it would be much earlier,probably about '92-'93.On my day off,which was a Monday I would go into town and visit EVERY outlet that sold PC games. There were a couple that I would visit most days in my lunch hour too. The visits would get more frequent just before a much anticipated release (usually a Microprose game). Kid in a sweet shop? You bet biggrin


I'd have to agree. Falcon 4.0 was a great sim, but not groundbreaking in the way that Falcon 3.0 was. When you look at what else had come along in the 6 years or so between 3.0 and 4.0 - F15 Strike Eagle III, Flanker, EF2000, Tornado, Back to Baghdad, etc - then Falcon 4.0 really wasn't anything but the predictable next step in the evolution. All it really had that the others didn't was the dynamic campaign. Graphics were great, but so were the others' for the technology of the time.

Before Falcon 3.0 most sims were either nothing more than arcade games or jerky wire-framed versions that reminded you of how Gumby moved. After Falcon 4.0 there seemed to be only arcade games and sims that emphasized switchology and memorizing countless EM curves as a substitute for actual gameplay. Sometimes you don't want to have to be up at 0300 for the mission brief when you don't take off till 1000. The years between were the golden years of flight sims, IMO.


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#4057397 - 12/29/14 09:25 PM Re: Why 1998 Was the Best Year in Gaming [Re: kaa]  
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>>>OFF is dead (not really in fact), long live WOFF!

And about the ill-fated RB kickstarter: <<<

and ROF biggrin

Ugh!, what an idiot, Unless somebody over there can figure out why the original RB2/3D lasts in the fond memories of the old customers, there is no hope.

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Originally Posted By: semmern
GPL, EAW, Falcon 4. It says a lot that these games are all alive and well, almost 17 years after they came out. Wonder how many will be playing Call of Duty in 17 years' time.


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I agree. 1998 was the best year to be a flight sim fan...that's for sure. They don't mention any flight sims in the article however.


+1 for 98 the year M1A2 by micropose was released.
Think steel beast was released in 1999.
For armour fans both releases were a benchmark.


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