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#4052551 - 12/18/14 10:55 AM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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however... it is also said (in general), that the subject of post can be taken to task (paraphrased) yet, when that is done... the thread is locked - see my signature

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#4055303 - 12/24/14 05:38 AM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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HeHe. I just logged into steam for the first time since October and here is what I found. ROFLMAO!!!! I think I posted this quote like 3 times, and I guess they consider that spamming and banned me permanently. No moderator ever sent a warning or personnel message or anything. No big loss, but that is pretty funny.
Edit: This is the only post I ever made over there on the BOS Forum. Like i said, I posted this i think 3 times on the same night in different threads. I guess that is technically spamming? I never ever thought about that LOL. C'est la vie!

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#4055309 - 12/24/14 06:18 AM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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Good on you Blade for at least trying to warn folks before they see the "IL-2" name and hit the buy button before realizing this isn't the IL-2 that has been for 13 years.

There are some supposed "community" members that spread manure around trying to sweep the fact that this is a mockery of the IL-2 brand under the carpet...and just want to increase sales because they have aligned themselves in good with the developers.

If you saved someone from buying this that was thinking this was another worthy IL-2 installment...then I think the ban was worth it. That's pretty much taking one for the team.

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#4055338 - 12/24/14 10:38 AM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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Allowing devs to moderate a forum for their own game is so obviously unethical and bent I'm surprised anyone with half a brain at Steam thought it wouldn't further stain their reputation. But it's the usual corporate dollar-whoring mentality at work.


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#4055416 - 12/24/14 01:59 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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I didn't take one for the team. I was just posting a quick response of my honest experiences and opinion of BOS(partially quoted from another post there). I only posted this here because I was reading this thread over at the BOS Forum,
http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/13596-vote-steam/
and went to see what all the hub-bub was about and found I had been perma-banned. This thread was pretty petty and comical, but what really had me ROFLMAO was the final post made for the lock down.
"I don't see anyone asking anyone to lie in this thread.You cannot call people liars or insinuate that they are asking folks to lie here. "
That sounds vaguely familiar. yep

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#4055423 - 12/24/14 02:03 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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Just FYI Steam is pretty good about not having a company take total control over their forums.

I know when BoS first hit Steam there were tons of locked/deleted threads, and plenty of bans. It was run like their official forums. I had a thread deleted there, when I first saw BoS, asking if any DCS fans are enjoying BoS because I wanted their views on it. It got locked by Jason with him saying "This is not DCS". Totally missing the point of my question.

After a while I believe Steam told them to chill out on the deleted thread and bans. It was much more unbiased after that. Its still Steam forums and not owned by 777/1c. Anyway, much, much, better there now, although very dead.

#4055457 - 12/24/14 02:58 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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I hear ya! No hurt feelings here, LOL like I said I only made one visit and these few posts(maybe 3 or 4 ??) and I guess I did technically spam(was the same message), although that thought never entered my mind. I have never spammed anywhere else, and I would think they would just delete all but one of the posts and give you a PM or even Public(on the Forum) warning. Wait ,... actually... MAYBE MY FEELINGS ARE HURT, ... I AM AN OUTCAST AT BOS STEAM,..LABELED A SPAMMER!!! I FEEL SO ISOLATED?? HMMMMMMM??? NNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAA, it's all good, nothing to miss over there anyway.

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#4055563 - 12/24/14 06:44 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: WernerVoss]  
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Originally Posted By: WernerVoss
Allowing devs to moderate a forum for their own game is so obviously unethical and bent I'm surprised anyone with half a brain at Steam thought it wouldn't further stain their reputation. But it's the usual corporate dollar-whoring mentality at work.

Neither Steam or any developer benefits from people deliberately trying to bash and attack games on their forum. Keep in mind Steam sells these games and therefore also has an interest in moderating the discussion. If someone believes it's their "freedom" to attempt to harm another's business, it's also the prerogative of that business to decide they don't want you as a customer.


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#4055568 - 12/24/14 06:55 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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Originally Posted By: lokitexas

The only ones that I have read that "like" it are - 1. The ones rolling 20 sided dice to determine certain outcomes,

Wow. As a former Dungeons & Dragons Dungeonmaster I now realize why I like the campaign! ;-)


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#4055581 - 12/24/14 07:24 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: SharpeXB]  
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Originally Posted By: SharpeXB
Originally Posted By: WernerVoss
Allowing devs to moderate a forum for their own game is so obviously unethical and bent I'm surprised anyone with half a brain at Steam thought it wouldn't further stain their reputation. But it's the usual corporate dollar-whoring mentality at work.

Neither Steam or any developer benefits from people deliberately trying to bash and attack games on their forum. Keep in mind Steam sells these games and therefore also has an interest in moderating the discussion. If someone believes it's their "freedom" to attempt to harm another's business, it's also the prerogative of that business to decide they don't want you as a customer.


Here you go again...like a broken record

Does harming one's business go for Drug dealers too?...when you speak out against their product? While they market it on "their turf"

Snake Oil salesman?

Come on! If you're going to carpet bomb these forums with BoS propaganda....at least show some imagination!

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#4055613 - 12/24/14 08:33 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: SkullBiscuit]  
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Originally Posted By: SkullBiscuit
Originally Posted By: SharpeXB
Originally Posted By: WernerVoss
Allowing devs to moderate a forum for their own game is so obviously unethical and bent I'm surprised anyone with half a brain at Steam thought it wouldn't further stain their reputation. But it's the usual corporate dollar-whoring mentality at work.

Neither Steam or any developer benefits from people deliberately trying to bash and attack games on their forum. Keep in mind Steam sells these games and therefore also has an interest in moderating the discussion. If someone believes it's their "freedom" to attempt to harm another's business, it's also the prerogative of that business to decide they don't want you as a customer.

Does harming one's business go for Drug dealers too?...when you speak out against their product? While they market it on "their turf"

You're comparing game developers and their business partners to drug dealers? That's nice...


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#4055628 - 12/24/14 09:00 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: SharpeXB]  
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Originally Posted By: SharpeXB
Originally Posted By: SkullBiscuit
Originally Posted By: SharpeXB
Originally Posted By: WernerVoss
Allowing devs to moderate a forum for their own game is so obviously unethical and bent I'm surprised anyone with half a brain at Steam thought it wouldn't further stain their reputation. But it's the usual corporate dollar-whoring mentality at work.

Neither Steam or any developer benefits from people deliberately trying to bash and attack games on their forum. Keep in mind Steam sells these games and therefore also has an interest in moderating the discussion. If someone believes it's their "freedom" to attempt to harm another's business, it's also the prerogative of that business to decide they don't want you as a customer.

Does harming one's business go for Drug dealers too?...when you speak out against their product? While they market it on "their turf"

You're comparing game developers and their business partners to drug dealers? That's nice...


Wow... that is a new low.. even for these guys..


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#4055635 - 12/24/14 09:14 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: lokitexas]  
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Nope... its others disingeiously making that connection

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#4055653 - 12/24/14 09:33 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted By: Force10
If you saved someone from buying this that was thinking this was another worthy IL-2 installment...then I think the ban was worth it. That's pretty much taking one for the team.

Why would anyone be surprised for getting banned from Steam for attempting to "save" their customers by actively discouraging them from buying games on the website? Steam sells games just like 1CGS sells games. That's like going into a shoe store and trying to convince customers not to buy a particular brand of shoes. The store owner will throw you out on the street. Just like Steam.


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#4055661 - 12/24/14 09:54 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: SharpeXB]  
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Originally Posted By: SharpeXB
Originally Posted By: Force10
If you saved someone from buying this that was thinking this was another worthy IL-2 installment...then I think the ban was worth it. That's pretty much taking one for the team.

Why would anyone be surprised for getting banned from Steam for attempting to "save" their customers by actively discouraging them from buying games on the website? Steam sells games just like 1CGS sells games. That's like going into a shoe store and trying to convince customers not to buy a particular brand of shoes. The store owner will throw you out on the street. Just like Steam.


Hmmm, there are other games available on steam that are not sh!te, reccomending not buying a poor piece of software
should not get you banned

Just like there are other brands of shoes in the shop that might be better

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#4055667 - 12/24/14 10:12 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: SharpeXB]  
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Originally Posted By: SharpeXB
Originally Posted By: Force10
If you saved someone from buying this that was thinking this was another worthy IL-2 installment...then I think the ban was worth it. That's pretty much taking one for the team.

Why would anyone be surprised for getting banned from Steam for attempting to "save" their customers by actively discouraging them from buying games on the website? Steam sells games just like 1CGS sells games. That's like going into a shoe store and trying to convince customers not to buy a particular brand of shoes. The store owner will throw you out on the street. Just like Steam.


Steam is a retail outlet...it is not the representative for any particular brand of shoes (to use your metaphor).

If customers come to believe that Steam is favoring one brand of shoes over another by misreprenting them to the buying public...then before you know...no one will trust Steam...and no one will buy any shoes from Steam...regardless of their alleged qualities.

Steam has no dog in this fight other than permitting the customers to determine which product is the best. If a customer comes into the store and another customer asks them about a particular brand of shoe, then the customer exercising their freedom of speech can offer an opinion. Steam "wins" when the best shoes rise to the top through "viral" marketing or word of mouth from customers...not by participating in vendor marketing efforts to "control the message"

You my friend...lack an understanding of marketplaces...and controlling the message in the long run does not serve anyone....just look at the old Soviet system...and how good it was at delivering "consumer goods"


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#4055670 - 12/24/14 10:22 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: SharpeXB]  
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Originally Posted By: SharpeXB
Originally Posted By: Force10
If you saved someone from buying this that was thinking this was another worthy IL-2 installment...then I think the ban was worth it. That's pretty much taking one for the team.

Why would anyone be surprised for getting banned from Steam for attempting to "save" their customers by actively discouraging them from buying games on the website? Steam sells games just like 1CGS sells games. That's like going into a shoe store and trying to convince customers not to buy a particular brand of shoes. The store owner will throw you out on the street. Just like Steam.


Because Steam has no loyalty to brand beyond theirs. Thats why.

You really think Steam wants people buying a product then be unhappy with it? No, thats why they have Steam reviews, forums, and disclaimers such as "uses 3rd party DRM" for BoS. If they used the same tactics as 777/1c they would not put up the reviews, or only post the good ones and be just as shady.

You dont understand how it works. Thats also why they told the devs to back off on the deleted and locked posts as not to implement an "everything is perfect" image, when it is not.

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#4055671 - 12/24/14 10:26 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: SharpeXB]  
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Originally Posted By: SharpeXB

Why would anyone be surprised for getting banned from Steam for attempting to "save" their customers by actively discouraging them from buying games on the website? Steam sells games just like 1CGS sells games. That's like going into a shoe store and trying to convince customers not to buy a particular brand of shoes. The store owner will throw you out on the street. Just like Steam.


Gee...I wonder why Steam allows user's to review games them?

What you're saying doesn't make sense at all. When I'm thinking about buying a game...I want to know what user's experiences are...good and bad...I don't just want the developer's creative writing guy's description to go on.

But then again...I'm a paying customer with no affiliation or allegiance to the developer...others might not be...so they want the hard truth censored.

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#4055672 - 12/24/14 10:27 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Wow... that is a new low.. even for these guys..


Define "these guy's".


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#4055676 - 12/24/14 10:31 PM Re: If you dont like BoS you are a troll [Re: Force10]  
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Wow... that is a new low.. even for these guys..


Define "these guy's".


I think I am one of "those guys"

The "other guys" just like to make generalizations without supporting evidence

They just don't like it when they see their own sophistry used against them....like I did ....with the Drug Dealers metaphor for a license to control the message of a product.

Guilty...

I am one of those guys

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