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#4053069 - 12/19/14 04:27 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller ***** [Re: Ltfransky]  
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Originally Posted By: Ltfransky

Holy #%&*$#. So with any pro micro you DON"T need a progammer (I have an avrisp - no idea how to use it)?

also with Arduino Leonardo / Arduino Micro / Teensy2.0 and Teensy2.0++ - NO NEED EXTERNAL PROGRAMMER.
if you want to update firmware no need to disassemble your joystick.

Originally Posted By: Ltfransky

All I have to do is follow the above steps to get it to work? Also, in order for this to work, do steps 4-6 have to be done within 8 seconds or can you start Joysetup and get everything ready, then plug in the promicro and click "upload"?

as you like, main think you understand. when you click "upload firmware" device mode "bootloader" and joysetup correct data fields(chip/file hex/com port/type boot).

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#4053072 - 12/19/14 04:34 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: tirta]  
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Originally Posted By: tirta

you make your own gimbal mechanism.
that is very impressive. thumbsup
how long does it takes to make it?

from first idea to first hardware - half year. and another half year to make 3 or 4 hardware versions...

#4053146 - 12/19/14 12:30 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Hi mega_mozg_13,

I am planning to build my own magrez MCP601+kmz41 sensor, but in the joysetup the source has many option except IntSensor, which one should I choose if a magrez sensor is connect.

Many thanks

#4053556 - 12/20/14 05:57 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Crosswind]  
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Originally Posted By: Crosswind

I am planning to build my own magrez MCP601+kmz41 sensor, but in the joysetup the source has many option except IntSensor, which one should I choose if a magrez sensor is connect.


Hi.
Select "IntSensor" / "Port" (where it connected) and "Assigment". It is minimum to works with any analog sensor (pot/hall/magrez).

#4053562 - 12/20/14 07:00 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: mega_mozg_13]  
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Originally Posted By: mega_mozg_13
Originally Posted By: Crosswind

I am planning to build my own magrez MCP601+kmz41 sensor, but in the joysetup the source has many option except IntSensor, which one should I choose if a magrez sensor is connect.


Hi.
Select "IntSensor" / "Port" (where it connected) and "Assigment". It is minimum to works with any analog sensor (pot/hall/magrez).


thank your explanation, I know this part. My mistake. I thought magrez is a digital sensor.....

Do you have any MCP320x + KMZxx shematic to share? I'd like to try something else other than analog.

#4053568 - 12/20/14 07:46 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Crosswind,

MCP3202_KMZ60.lay6 (Sprint-Layout6) at "downloads" folder.

shematic:
for MCP3202-SOIC
for MCP3202-DIP

MCP3202-DIP real fotos




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#4053657 - 12/20/14 02:25 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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very nice of you, thank again cheers

BTW, what's the R0?

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#4053698 - 12/20/14 04:28 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Where is everyone getting the KMZ60s? I usually try for ebay because of free shipping, but i can't find any on there. I'd be interested in trying this out on some of my home sticks.

Also, I believe the MaRS sensor was the MCP601+kmz41, is there a schematic for that setup?

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#4053707 - 12/20/14 04:51 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Crosswind]  
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Originally Posted By: Crosswind
very nice of you, thank again cheers
BTW, what's the R0?

this is Resistor = 0 Om (jumper).

#4053709 - 12/20/14 04:56 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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KMZ60 are available in Mouser, Digikey and Chip1stop.

MCP3202+KMZ60 has a advantage to use less components than the old MCP601+KMZ41

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#4053710 - 12/20/14 04:57 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Ltfransky]  
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Originally Posted By: Ltfransky
Also, I believe the MaRS sensor was the MCP601+kmz41, is there a schematic for that setup?

Wrong!
"Mars" - this is VKB digital(kmz41+attiny85) sensor, works only with Defender Cobra M5/ VKB Njoy32 controller.
"Magrez" - analog kmz41+mcp601, works everywhere.

https://mmjoy.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/MagRez_GVL_MM_44-22.lay6
("Magrez" PCB, Sprint Layout6)
https://mmjoy.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/MagRez_GVL_Setup.doc
("Magrez" Russian manual "how to", author GVL)

#4053713 - 12/20/14 05:02 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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about KMZ60 / KMZ41. my english is no good, try to translate this from russian:
http://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/64234-mjoy-mjoy8-mjoy16-mmjoy/?p=3814221

#4053805 - 12/20/14 08:41 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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What I understand from WT topic:

Quote:


KMZ41 - use one bridge of sensor

Advantage - Can be connect to any (USB) controller

Disadvantage - sensor gain value needs to be adjusted under work (joystick) mechanics, e.g. need solder components (resistor???)
Disadvantage - magnet central position needs to be set manually

KMZ60- use both bridge of sensor

Advantage - the central position of magnet (centering) is defined in Configurator
Advantage - adjusting for a (joystick) mechanics is done by Auto Calibration in Configurator

Disadvantage - this sensor only work if plugged into a controller that perform trigonometry calculations, or ones with MMJoy firmware
Disadvantage - is not easy to find and buy "KMZ60" and "MCP3202", therefore is provides possibility of replacing the ADC "MCP3202" by "MCP3204" or "MCP3208"


BTW - Nice Logitech upgrade: ball bearings on gimbal, MagRez sensors, MMjoy. smile

http://forum.warthunder.ru/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-1103554-0-24545400-1418930208.jpg

Sokol1



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#4054096 - 12/21/14 04:47 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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#4054168 - 12/21/14 08:39 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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#4054344 - 12/22/14 04:16 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1

BTW - Nice Logitech upgrade: ball bearings on gimbal, MagRez sensors, MMjoy. smile


more fotos

#4054540 - 12/22/14 03:26 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Hi mega_mozg,

Since your latest mmjoy firmware can use LED,
can you give me some ideas what the LED is used for?

#4054660 - 12/22/14 08:25 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Tirta

You can use LED to monitor switch's state. Sample from above WT link.

http://forum.warthunder.ru/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-59452-0-29246800-1418105755.jpg

Sokol1

#4055320 - 12/24/14 08:21 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1
Tirta

You can use LED to monitor switch's state. Sample from above WT link.

http://forum.warthunder.ru/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-59452-0-29246800-1418105755.jpg

Sokol1


thanks Sokol1,

that's a lot of LEDs.
so it is possible to assign one LED to each button?
How do you do it?

#4056246 - 12/26/14 05:13 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Ok, I've now completed a thrustmaster FCS, WCS, X fighter, attack throttle, rudder pedals and a CH Pro yoke. All the buttons, hats and axis work. I think I'm getting the hang of this.

But, I have some questions:

What do Zoom, Stop, Trim and Divisor do in Axis Programming?

Is there a way to set one of the thrustmaster 3 way switches to actually work without putting in gate logic chips?

Can someone explain to me like I'm 5 - what are shift registers, how they work and why I would program them?

What are the differences between the October and the November firmware releases?

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