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#4054386 - 12/22/14 07:22 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: DetCord]  
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For some specific cancers, proton beams are
still the preferred treatment (and of course
here, cost is not an issue):
http://www.triumf.ca/proton-therapy

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#4054806 - 12/23/14 05:08 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: DetCord]  
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I contacted a couple of buddies of mine currently in Iraq and Syria fighting with the Kurds. Long story short, I had my #%&*$# ready to go.

CID came and saw me and asked why I had purchased tickets to Turkey. I told them I was going to kick ass and take names, they didn't find that funny. I did though. They confiscated my Passport and reminded me that while I'm sick, I'm still on active duty and represent the United States Army. Guess that's a good thing. Free medical and all. Though I'm pretty sure this cancerous tumor is a result of serving is ######holes and being exposed to lots and lots of radiation from IR and other jammers on our vehicles in Iraq and Afghanistan. Either way, guess I'm stuck here Stateside.

Kinda bummed out by the whole thing. I really wanted to go.


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#4055264 - 12/24/14 02:08 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: DetCord]  
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Eh, hate to ask, but wouldn't taking a trip to Iraq/Syria/Kurdistan/whatever region is applicable make treatment somewhat impossible and sort of make the odds worse?

#4055632 - 12/24/14 09:08 PM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: DetCord]  
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Originally Posted By: DetCord
I contacted a couple of buddies of mine currently in Iraq and Syria fighting with the Kurds. Long story short, I had my #%&*$# ready to go.

CID came and saw me and asked why I had purchased tickets to Turkey. I told them I was going to kick ass and take names, they didn't find that funny. I did though. They confiscated my Passport and reminded me that while I'm sick, I'm still on active duty and represent the United States Army. Guess that's a good thing. Free medical and all. Though I'm pretty sure this cancerous tumor is a result of serving is ######holes and being exposed to lots and lots of radiation from IR and other jammers on our vehicles in Iraq and Afghanistan. Either way, guess I'm stuck here Stateside.

Kinda bummed out by the whole thing. I really wanted to go.


Hmm... I would love to see case histories of you and your friends...but I'm not in that game, anymore.

It's really difficult to assign causality, but if you guys had a cancer cluster, that would be significant data. Some of the radiation levels output by military equipment are pretty alarming. IR would be extremely unlikely to cause your issue, but the high output jammers (to detonate IEDs?) are interesting.

In some tests, people at Catholic University (go figure) were able to get cells to grow much more rapidly in the presence of a strong electromagnetic field.

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#4056677 - 12/28/14 12:10 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: shan2]  
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Well shan2 I'm sure you're the expert but it seems the other experts at Mayo and at least one other facility disagree with you. The University of Florida Proton Therapy Institute would also disagree with you that they are "shameless bastards"

And also shan2 ..... one of the best cancer centers in the United States, MD Anderson Cancer Center ....would also disagree with your evaluation of them as "shameless bastards". They also have a proton radiation brain tumor center.





Why? Do they have a donation link on the same webpage where they tout their future achievements?

Your ignorance of the subject is noted.


Writing as a professional fundraiser, so is yours. Private philanthropy is the driving force behind such medical research. Unless you'd rather the taxpayer paid for it... As links go, that's pretty discrete, and makes sense on a page describing aspirational programmes.

If people people benefit from or are inspired by philanthropy like that, then I'm all for it.

Now if the science is complete BS, call it. Don't blame the development and marketing folks for doing a good job wink

#4056701 - 12/28/14 01:20 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: DetCord]  
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I know quite a bit about private philanthropy. I worked for Johns Hopkins. My objections are due to the lack of significant data regarding the superiority of proton radiation versus gamma for the majority of cancers, even though the facilities required for providing the treatment are vastly more expensive. Sometimes, the complications with proton radiation are worse, but the sheer marketing drives put out by these institutions never tout the disadvantages.

The Mayo Clinic are not saying to fund them knowing that proton radiation does not produce superior outcomes for the vast majority of cases, right?

I don't care about you in the marketing profession; you're supposed to lie in order to serve your clients. It is different in medicine. Would you desire a doctor who did not hold your well being above a crass profit motive?


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#4056705 - 12/28/14 01:31 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: PV1]  
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Originally Posted By: PV1
For some specific cancers, proton beams are
still the preferred treatment (and of course
here, cost is not an issue):
http://www.triumf.ca/proton-therapy


For a few types of cancer, there are benefits from proton radiation versus gamma. My objection is that in the majority of cancers that can be treated by radiation therapy, proton does not do better than gamma, but costs significantly more. That means that it is better for the institution to use proton for profits, but not for the patients who have to pay for the procedures.


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#4056773 - 12/28/14 08:16 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: DetCord]  
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As I say, here, that is not an issue. And additionally,
the facility already exists as a research centre, so
setting up the proton therapy area was a pretty incidental
incremental cost. The beamline was available and
relatively underused.

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Yeah, it's different here with medical centers using it willy-nilly to dish out larger fees for no greater benefit.


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#4057949 - 12/31/14 03:31 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: DetCord]  
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Wishing you the best, DetCord. My mother's brain tumor wasn't detected until it was almost too late, and it was only emergency life saving surgery that saved her life. Of course, the problem in her case was the tumor in her head was the result of a tumor in her chest, so she lasted only about 6 weeks after making what was truly a very quick recovery from the head surgery.

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Hearing about Destructis's passing…had me wondering how Detcord is doing. He has only had 3 posts since this original topic and hasn't been on SimHQ since Jan 15th.

Anyone have any info?


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#4096560 - 03/25/15 02:25 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: shan2]  
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Originally Posted By: shan2
Originally Posted By: PV1
For some specific cancers, proton beams are
still the preferred treatment (and of course
here, cost is not an issue):
http://www.triumf.ca/proton-therapy


For a few types of cancer, there are benefits from proton radiation versus gamma. My objection is that in the majority of cancers that can be treated by radiation therapy, proton does not do better than gamma, but costs significantly more. That means that it is better for the institution to use proton for profits, but not for the patients who have to pay for the procedures.


I thought proton radiation had less side effects than gamma. Is that not the case?


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#4096661 - 03/25/15 10:19 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted By: Force10
Hearing about Destructis's passing…had me wondering how Detcord is doing. He has only had 3 posts since this original topic and hasn't been on SimHQ since Jan 15th.

Anyone have any info?


Have you tried PMs?


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#4096665 - 03/25/15 10:27 AM Re: Who's Got a Brain Tumor? [Re: Timothy]  
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Originally Posted By: Timothy
Originally Posted By: shan2
Originally Posted By: PV1
For some specific cancers, proton beams are
still the preferred treatment (and of course
here, cost is not an issue):
http://www.triumf.ca/proton-therapy


For a few types of cancer, there are benefits from proton radiation versus gamma. My objection is that in the majority of cancers that can be treated by radiation therapy, proton does not do better than gamma, but costs significantly more. That means that it is better for the institution to use proton for profits, but not for the patients who have to pay for the procedures.


I thought proton radiation had less side effects than gamma. Is that not the case?


It depends on the cancer, but in the majority of cases, the answer is no.


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