Thanks WolfDancer, you reminded me that once I show the Mrs. this little project she's probably going to be looking for "Heaven" from 1984's Reckless. Oooh, if missing I might have some explaining to do.
I'll squeeze in some Bryan Adams.
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4053077 - 12/19/1404:52 AMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
I can't believe I forgot Slaughter. Bryan Adams however can never be forgotten. As someone who has seen quite a few bands in concert, Bryan Adams in a small arena is the best concert I've seen to this day. Dude knew exactly how to make it personal and fun.
#4053090 - 12/19/1405:47 AMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
I'm not convinced on the "69" thing, yet Bryan Adams claims...
========== "When Adams appeared on The Early Show in 2008, he was asked about "Summer of '69" and its lyrical meaning. Adams confirmed the song was about sex and making love in the summertime. "69" is a reference to the sexual position, 69.[3] Vallance however has gone for the more conventional interpretation of the title being a reference to a year. He notes Jackson Browne's "Running on Empty", which contains references to 1965 and 1969, as his own influence, and recalls Adams citing the film Summer of '42 as his.[2] However the song bears no references to anything in 1969" ==========
"'Summer of '69' - I think it's timeless because it's about making love in the summertime. There is a slight misconception it's about a year, but it's not. '69' has nothing to do about a year, it has to do with a sexual position ... At the end of the song the lyric says that it's me and my baby in a 69. You'd have to be pretty thick in the ears if you couldn't get that lyric."[13]" ==========
Still wouldn't be as risqu as Jefferson Starship's "Miracles".
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EDIT: Ok, I'm [sort of] convinced [the song could have two meanings, since Adams co-wrote the song and was born in '59). At the 3:00 mark (iTunes), "Me and my baby in a 69". Can't be on the Reckless lyric sheet though, I would have noticed it with the LP (can't get to my CDs right now).
This song gets automatic inclusion!
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#4053121 - 12/19/1409:55 AMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
It's powerful and it's the most balladesque song from this underrated band:
Warrior Soul - The Losers
There doesn't exist an official video of the album version and I don't want to use the live versions - the frontman's rock'n'roll lifestyle took a heavy toll on his voice in later years. (Now I wonder: Has Motrhead ever made a power ballad? Maybe on the "1916" album?)
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"It's people like you that give people like you a bad name!" - Jessica Jones
#4053126 - 12/19/1411:04 AMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
========== "Aaron argues that the power ballad broke into the mainstream of American consciousness in 1976 as FM radio gave a new lease of life to earlier songs such as Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" (1971), Aerosmith's "Dream On" (1973), and Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Free Bird" (1974).[50] The Carpenters' "Goodbye to Love" (1972) has also been identified as a prototype of the power ballad.[51] Notable power ballad examples include Nazareth's version of "Love Hurts" (1975), Foreigner's "I Want to Know What Love Is" (1984),[49] Scorpions' "Still Loving You" (1984), Heart's "What About Love" (1985),[52] and Whitesnake's "Is This Love" (1987).[53]"" ==========
But if The Carpenters' "Goodbye to Love" and Foreigner's "I Want to Know What Love Is" are to be included as examples of the power ballad, then absolutely "Open Arms" is a power ballad.
I don't dislike the song as much as it's considered to be so representative of Journey. Maybe I'll keep it.
#4053304 - 12/19/1405:57 PMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
Those manly hair bands slowing it down and showing a more sensitive side and often coming up with some of their catchiest and most-career defining hits. From Poison to Journey to Def Leppard, going the route of the power ballad was an absolute given in the 1980s if you were in a hard rock band.
The Carpenters I wouldn't even consider "soft rock", every song they sing is sappy. IMO, a Rock Ballad has to be out of the norm for the group.
If you look at the 10 songs on that list, I thing we nailed them. I guess they consider Journey's songs ballads too.
#4053442 - 12/19/1410:01 PMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
I'm down with VH1's definition of a rock power ballad with the following exceptions:
- They shouldn't imply that Poison and Journey were "manly". - They shouldn't imply that Poison and Journey were hard rock bands. - They shouldn't imply that Journey and Def Leppard were hair bands (and neither was '80s Van Halen even with all that hair).
Journey was neither manly nor a hair band (unless you count Neil Schon's humungous 'fro in the '70s).
I like their list. Kinda weird to see White Lion's "When the Children Cry", I really like the song (good find...one for my personal playlist) but I can't help but think that power ballads are mostly about poon (unless it's intended to be dark/sad or you're Ozzy).
Journey's "Don't Stop Believing" a power ballad? I thought is was one of the few songs on Escape that wasn't. Oh well, I like the song but it's not making my list.
Otherwise, I think this is the best definition/examples yet. I guess Wikipedia including a Carpenters song is just an example how much opinions differ on the subject.
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4053580 - 12/20/1408:49 AMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
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Maybe it was someone's joke. I don't know if that melody could be twisted into a power ballad, even if you had a Felix Papalardi arrangement with Leigh Stevens on guitar and John Finlay on vocal, that being the most potent combination I can think of off hand.
But the metal power ballad is just a gentle permutation of the power pop ballad, which goes back to the early sixties (As I cited before, Walker bros Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore), or even the fifties - maybe the first was Conway Twitty (Only Make Believe) or Gene Pitney (Town Without Pity), and had all sorts of practitioners. The sixties had the Righteous Brothers, Jay and the Americans, and too many more to remember. Tom Jones had a TV show from around 68 to 72, and he would deliver a different power pop ballad every week. In the seventies, there was Eddie Money, and I seem to recall the gimmick band Kiss got their best mileage out of a power pop number. And on it goes.
#4053672 - 12/20/1402:53 PMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
In the Beyond the Lighted Stage documentary, an older DJ refers to Rush as "a heavy metal band".
LOL Ok, in my defense, AC/DC is much closer to being heavy metal than Rush ever was.
Rush's early stuff, maybe even up to 2112, was heavier than anything AC/DC has ever done. AC/DC started out as a blues-based band, and once Brian Johnson came along they pretty much turned to power pop.
Phil
“The biggest problem people have is they don’t think they’re supposed to have problems.” - Hayes Barnard
#4053772 - 12/20/1407:24 PMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]
Journey wouldn't be categorised as a hard rock band in my book either, and "Don't stop believing" doesn't quite fit my personal idea of a power ballad.
But if a power ballad is a ballad with added soaring emotions, attempted profundity and amplified guitars, starting slowly and then gradually building to a crescendo, what is a ballad?
Basically it is a refrain song a ditty, a story set to musical notes, as I interpret the definition at Wiki. Hence just about every piece of music in modern culture that would fit on to the "single" format could be termed as a ballad.
Jens C. Lindblad
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#4053773 - 12/20/1407:24 PMRe: My complete listing of Rock/Power Ballads...
[Re: MarkG]