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#4042017 - 11/27/14 04:48 AM Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again  
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Hi Gents,

When I installed the new WOFF2.0 I had to reload the whole game into a new folder and lost everything.

Can I get some help on installing SweetFX? I followed this... but still no joy.

Thanks!

OvS

Originally Posted By: MajorMagee
Here's how I did my SweetFX install:


1. Edit the d3d8.ini file to NoMultisampling=1 for compatibility with SweetFX and set to 'read only'.

2. Run CFS3Config.exe and make sure you choose your proper display options selection again (i.e. it may show 800 x 600 x 16).

3. Download FlightFX from here http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=34103 and install it on your computer.

4. Since version 1.0 of Flight FX does not have latest version (1.5.1) of Sweet FX included you need to download that from here http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=381912 and extract all of it to the FX folder where you have Flight FX installed. Let it overwrite any of the files that may have the same names as what FlightFX already had.

5. Now you can run Flight FX and click on Register New Game at the bottom left. It will open a dialog box where you'll navigate it to your cfs3.exe file. That will populate the paths at the top right of Flight FX for you.

6. Click on Enable Sweet FX and it will copy most of the needed files into your CFS3 install. It misses SweetFX_compatibility_settings.txt which is in the Flight FX / FX / SweetFX folder and needs to be manually copied into the matching one Flight FX created in your CFS3 directory.

7. Select the FX Preset you want to use from the pull down list. The files behind this list are located in the Flight FX / FX / SweetFX / Presets folder. They are just text files so you can create new presets manually by cut and past if you like. Make a back-up copy of any of your favorites because it is all too easy to overwrite them by mistake in Flight FX.

That is really all there is to it. At this point you can edit any of the settings under the FX Settings tab and the effect will be immediate.

By default the Scroll Lock key will toggle the shader effects on and off.
The Print Screen Key will place a screenshot in your CFS3 root directory (This overrules CFS3 that normally wants to save screenshots in the CFS3 folder under My Documents).
If you uncheck the Enable SweetFX box in Flight FX it will uninstall SweetFX (but not the D3D8 and SweetFX_compatibility_settings files you did manually) and you're back to normal.



Edited to omit having to download the d3d8.dll files as they are now part of WOFF2.0.

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#4042019 - 11/27/14 04:50 AM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Make sure you change the d3d8.ini to Read Only after you have edited the NoMultisampling=1. Otherwise it writes it back to 0 on you and that essentially disables SweetFX.


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#4042022 - 11/27/14 05:01 AM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Yup.. that was it! Read only! Thanks for the help.

Just when I thought this came can't get any better looking... I am once again picking up my bottom jaw off of the floor!

OvS


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#4042023 - 11/27/14 05:07 AM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Kismet.
After seeing some screenies I was hoping to give Sweet FX a try and here it all is on a platter.
Nice.

#4042098 - 11/27/14 12:03 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Ok...got everything d/l'ed and am ready to install and give it a test run.
Got the part about making the "d3d8.ini to Read Only after you have edited the NoMultisampling=1".

I am running a custom Nvidia profile for WOFF with everything "maxed" out.
Under "Antialiasing - Transparency" tab is where the word "Multisampling" appears in my driver software control panel.
I have the following options:
1) Off
2) Multisample
3) 2x (Supersample)
4) 4x (Supersample)
5) 8x (Supersample)

I am currently running "8x (Supersample)".

My question is (not being a video card pro) because I am at "8x (Supersample)" do I have "Multisampling" already turned off? Or is Supersample just another version of Multisample?
If I switch to "Off" am I accomplishing the same thing as write protecting the d3d8.ini?
If I decide to use SweetFX should I just switch to "Off" here?
Or is making the d3d8.ini read-only trying to "protect it" from something WOFF itself is trying to do?

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Making d3d8.ini read only prevents WOFF from re-writing it back to "=0" which would then essentially turn off SweetFX. Antialiasing settings depend on a lot of things.

1. How good your video card is
2. How big your monitor is
3. How sensitive your eyes are at picking up "crawl" on the graphics
4. What resolution you are running your sim at.

For now, leave Multisampling to OFF and see how it looks to your eyes and how much of a frame rate hit you are taking while running 8x Supersample.


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#4042114 - 11/27/14 01:07 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Excellent. Thank you sir.
Reading into your answer Sweet FX causes a frame rate hit?
So far I have had FR to spare. Flying at 60 FPS on WOFF 2.0 without Sweet FX and everything as high as it can go.

#4042132 - 11/27/14 01:45 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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SweetFX can have a frame rate hit depending on what options you select. Shouldn't be any noticeable hit with my settings. Supersampling 8x might cause a frame rate hit - if not flying normally then possibly when using time compression at 4X or 8X.


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#4042137 - 11/27/14 01:54 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Sorry to keep being a pest but you are a prolific poster and a forum search was difficult.
What are your settings or do you have a link to them?

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NP. I've changed them around a little from my last settings post anyway.

I only use USE TECHNICOLOR and USE CURVES and DITHER is Enabled. The rest are all not used by me. I got rid of USE TONEMAP because it made the fields too dark - and I suspect made poor Winder want to pull his hair out after all the work he had done to make the scenery colors so perfect only to have them ruined by SweetFx settings. LOL USE CURVES seems to give me darker shadows and blacks without making the scenery too dark. All my most recent screenshots and videos for V2.0 WOFF have been using these settings.

#define USE_TECHNICOLOR 1

#define TechniAmount 0.20

#define TechniPower 7.13

#define redNegativeAmount 0.90

#define greenNegativeAmount 0.90

#define blueNegativeAmount 0.90


#define USE_CURVES 1

#define Curves_contrast 0.40

#define Curves_formula 1

DITHER is Enabled.

If you don't like mine, Robert Wiggins also has some great settings judging by his excellent videos. You may want to ask for his settings too and see if he'll share.


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#4042179 - 11/27/14 03:34 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Originally Posted By: OvStachel

Originally Posted By: MajorMagee
Here's how I did my SweetFX install:

1. Download the latest converter files from here http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3881675/DirectX_8_to_9_converter_updat#Post3881675 and install the d3d8.dll and d3d8.ini files where your cfs3.exe file is. This can be done for each install of CFS3 you may have.



Step 1 shown above is no longer necessary, because Ankor's DX 8 to 9 converter is already built into v2.0. Correct?


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#4042182 - 11/27/14 03:40 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: Slick Wilhelm]  
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Originally Posted By: Slick Wilhelm
Step 1 shown above is no longer necessary, because Ankor's DX 8 to 9 converter is already built into v2.0. Correct?

Sure.
I will edit that thread now to point out that downloading my DX mod is no longer necessary and even harmful, because my mod in V2.0 works a bit differently and replacing it with Aug 30th version will cause errors.

#4042289 - 11/27/14 07:23 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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I revised my original post to reflect that the D3d8 files are now included with WOFF v2.0.

Thanks for re-posting you settings Hellshade.

OvS


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Thanks, guys! salute


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#4042624 - 11/28/14 01:28 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Can sweetFX be installed into the game by JSGME?
I don't want to put this into my setup directly in case of problems.

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No, it can't but there's a simple "Enable / Disable" button to toggle it on or off.




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#4042694 - 11/28/14 04:06 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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Thats a pity... I have RoF sweetFX in my JSGME and it's so easy to just remove it using that system.

For WoFF I have to manually insert compatibility settings plus edit another ini file and use Flight FX.

If I want to update WoFF I normally just use JSGME to remove my existing mods, no drama, then update and again quickly use JSGME to install mods.
Ho hum... such is life frown
If anyone knows a way to use JSGME in the future, please remember me, lol!

#4042704 - 11/28/14 04:22 PM Re: Need help getting SweetFX/FlightFX working again [Re: OvStachel]  
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I find all this quite daunting, but I'll tackle it one step at a time. ('probably is simpler than it first appears).
About Step #1: I found the d3d8 files in a Shaders Folder. One is a .DLL file, and the other says 'Configuration Settings' The attached image is what I find, but since all entries are prefaced with a semi-colon I'm thinking that this is just comments. If I'm right, where do I find the d3d8.ini?


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The d3d8.ini file you are looking for should be in your main game folder where the WOFF.exe resides.
I don't know what file you were editing, there should not be another in 'shaders'.

The d3d8.ini comes standard with the WOFF 2.0 install now as part of the included Ankor's shadow mod.

OvS

Last edited by OvStachel; 11/28/14 09:50 PM.

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Originally Posted By: OvStachel
The d3d8.dll file you are looking for should be in your main game folder where the WOFF.exe resides.
I don't know what file you were editing, there should not be another in 'shaders'.

The d3d8.dll comes standard with the WOFF 2.0 install now as part of the included Ankor's shadow mod.

OvS


Rather,its the d3d8.ini file and not the d3d8.dll. Its in the main directory where the WOFF.exe is and whats weird is it can disappear at times.What works for me to make it appear is to start WOFF and then exit and check again.Once you find it and change NoMultisampling=0 to NoMultisampling=1 then save it and make the file read only or it will resort back to default.

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Guys, go to:

C:\OBDSoftware\WOFF\WOFFScenery\Shaders

There is the d3d8.ini file you can alter to work with sweet FX. Then it won't disappear or switch back etc. No need for read only or do anything else etc.

Cheers

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Can someone please explain exactly what this means;

'2. Run CFS3Config.exe and make sure you choose your proper display options selection again (i.e. it may show 800 x 600 x 16).'


If I run the CFS3 exe in the main game folder I just keep getting error messages?

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Originally Posted By: Trooper117
Can someone please explain exactly what this means;

'2. Run CFS3Config.exe and make sure you choose your proper display options selection again (i.e. it may show 800 x 600 x 16).'


If I run the CFS3 exe in the main game folder I just keep getting error messages?


I don't think that means anything, didn't make much sense in the scheme of things, and I ignored it.
SweetFX is apparently working fine in that I see minor differences when I switch it on/off.

EDIT: Just tried Hellshades Sweet FX settings and it definitely is working fine without the step mentioned above.
They default settings are quite subtle perhaps too much so.

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I put Hellshades settings on, and my graphics are all maxed out, and the game now looks nothing like his screenshots.... I might have to go back to the default game without sweetFX frown

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Originally Posted By: Trooper117
I put Hellshades settings on, and my graphics are all maxed out, and the game now looks nothing like his screenshots.... I might have to go back to the default game without sweetFX frown


Post a couple of screenshots so I can see what your sim looks like using the settings, please. Also, Make sure you turn OFF any setting that I don't have specifically listed.


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Originally Posted By: Hellshade

Post a couple of screenshots so I can see what your sim looks like using the settings, please. Also, Make sure you turn OFF any setting that I don't have specifically listed.


Ah. This is something I have to check.
I am definitely seeing a difference with SweetFX on and am suffering no FR loss but would like to get everything as great as possible.

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Right, been messing around with the settings and have now come up with this... Early morning patrol!


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That doesn't look too bad. Here are my SweetFX settings. Anything not listed should be turned off.

#define USE_TECHNICOLOR 1

#define TechniAmount 0.20
#define TechniPower 7.13
#define redNegativeAmount 0.90
#define greenNegativeAmount 0.90
#define blueNegativeAmount 0.90

#define USE_CURVES 1

#define Curves_contrast 0.40
#define Curves_formula 1

#define USE_DITHER 1


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@ Hellshade,

I'm using your settings, but have also enabled;

use SMAA ANTIALAISING
use LIFTGAMMAGAIN

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