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#4037483 - 11/18/14 12:06 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller ***** [Re: mega_mozg_13]  
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Originally Posted By: mega_mozg_13
Bluedeath, no force feedback.


He was talking about Force Sensing, not Force Feedback.

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#4037484 - 11/18/14 12:08 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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By force mod i mean load cells / strain gauges (like FCC or FFSB or the real f16 handle) not FF.
They are direct retrofit of the cougar i was wondering if the work in the MMjoy2 too (I'm triying to ditch the origina Cougar pcb)


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#4037801 - 11/19/14 04:18 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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tensor gauge, now I understand. I do not have sensors. where to buy?

#4037820 - 11/19/14 09:05 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Here
Look at page 3 for the links

Thanks in advance

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#4038062 - 11/19/14 09:03 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Bluedeath,
this is simple system like regular pot, use it as is.
or you want special features(curves) at JoySetup/Firmware?

#4038081 - 11/19/14 09:46 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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I do not need to setup curves just ti know if the mmjoy2 works with a strain gauge modded cougar (normally i tweak curves in the simulator so is no big deal)


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#4038084 - 11/19/14 09:51 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Is the source code for the Windows client software available somewhere?

tnx.

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#4038220 - 11/20/14 04:19 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: f15sim]  
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Originally Posted By: f15sim
Is the source code for the Windows client software available somewhere?

it written at Delphi2010 + JEDI Code Library(HID driver). what do you want to know from sources?

#4038476 - 11/20/14 04:31 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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I think it would be interesting to port to either C# or Lazarus. I like looking to see how things are done, too. smile

I've got every version of Delphi from v1 to XE. It's a shame Embarcadero insists on charging so much for it. They're doing more damage to the language via their pricing model than Microsoft could ever hope to do. frown

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#4042576 - 11/28/14 10:35 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Hi Guys,

After waiting for about a month, finally my arduino leonardo is arrived.
Then I try to program it with the latest mmjoy2 20141119.

First, I start "joyloader.exe",
then choose "firmware" section.
Then after plugging the arduino leonardo to my system,
I press "start bootloader" or press reset button on the board.
Then I press "upload firmware".

Then, a little cmd window pops up,
it says: connecting to proggrammer etc etc.

However, before the window dissappear,
I notice there is an error:

avrdude: error: buffered memory access not supported. Maybe it isn't
a butterfly/AVR109 but a AVR910 device?

what is wrong here?
please advise.

#4042811 - 11/28/14 08:25 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Tirta!
did you read this?
do you understand difference "Arduino Leonardo - COMx" and "Arduino Leonardo Bootloader - COMy" modes?

#4043002 - 11/29/14 07:22 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Hi mega_mozg

Success!! yeah
I can program it successfully now. thumbsup

It takes me a while to discern what you wrote,
but finally I understand what you mean.

However, your "start bootloader" button does not work.
I use reset button on the board.

Thanks for all the help. cheers




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#4043005 - 11/29/14 07:34 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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sorry if this is another noob question:

about ICSP pin,




there is 2 pin for each number,

so which one should I use for button matrix:
the upper pin or the lower one?

#4043243 - 11/29/14 07:09 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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#4043268 - 11/29/14 08:24 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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thanks mega_mozg for the picture.

can you explain about "shift register" ?
what does it do?

#4043310 - 11/29/14 10:27 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Tirta,

"Shift register" is the way that joysticks like Thrustmaster F22/PRO, Cougar, Warthog and Defender Cobra M5 use to send buttons/HATS press to controller main board via 5 wires cable, due use of multiplexer chips inside joystick grip. If you are not using one of this grips, this functions will dont have use.

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#4043509 - 11/30/14 01:32 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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thanks Sokol1 for the explanation.

how about encoder?
what do you use it for?

#4043704 - 12/01/14 12:57 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Encoder is physically similar to potentiometer, but instead read voltage variation (or resistance) send binary code, what the USB controller interprets as key press.

Turned clockwise send one press (e.g A) turn anti-clockwise send other press (e.g. B).

In Flight Simulator is useful for things like set COMM radios, select weapons, set bombsights, autopilots...
or for example in il-2 BoS adjust trim (in this not assignable to analog axis) be wheels controls.
In racing sim is used for adjust brakes bias, etc.
Any control that use + and - inputs can be benefited by the use of encoder.

Sokol1

#4045270 - 12/04/14 10:05 AM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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thanks Sokol1.

is encoder similar to using svmapper - continuous key press?

#4045356 - 12/04/14 02:34 PM Re: MMJoy - Build your own USB controller [Re: Sokol1]  
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Encoder send a momentary key press in each direction of rotation.

SVMapper translate a continuous key press from a ON/OFF switch in ON position in momentary key press (what the games are designed to handle, with few exceptions in some DCS controls).

See the Encoder (from SIM point of view) like a rotary device that instead send voltage or resistance variation (like a potentiometer) send momentary key press.

The encoder code can be translate in proportional movement (like a axis) be appropriated controller, example mouse scroll wheel, or Saitek Trim Wheel, that use encoder instead potentiometer.

Sokol1

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