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#4011500 - 09/18/14 08:33 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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I know I asked this a long time ago, but could someone please correct me again?
When the code was released to the community, wasn't it stated that we could do whatever
we wanted with it as long as it was NOT for profit?

Doesn't releasing a fully working 1.40 for free fall into this catagory?
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#4011505 - 09/18/14 08:48 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Ive been installing all day runs great as a base install...But most of the sets on 1.40 wont work.Think the ETO\DAW was the only one that did...Does anybody else have any luck with any of them???I tried moving the dir sets now installed to the not installed folder and tried to set up SPAW and it wont run and starting some others gives me an error 53.Still going to try and set a few up.

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#4011527 - 09/18/14 09:20 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Hi AngleOff.

At the time of the agreement, EAW was still available as a pay download, from Atari, and several other pay sites, so we were never allowed to offer full downloads.

Also, we were never allowed to charge for any of our mods, including exe realeases.

Now we have no way for anyone to get a legal copy of the default game, so unless you have a working disk, or can pick one up, there is no way for new players to try the game.

Yes, it's 16 years since EAW was released, and there is a whole new generation who have never had the chance to play it, on many platforms.

So we need to get permission from Atari to post a free full version, or Atati to post out updated EAW, on their website, so it can be legally downloaded once again.

I hope that covers your question? wink


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#4011571 - 09/18/14 11:41 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Originally Posted By: Col. Gibbon
Hi AngleOff.

At the time of the agreement, EAW was still available as a pay download, from Atari, and several other pay sites, so we were never allowed to offer full downloads.


I didn't know there was anything in the agreement that stated we could not offer free, full, modded downloads.
Only that whatever was done, was not for profit. Example:
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In this way it is also understood that no such discussion or game development shall pertain to, be directed at, or be in furtherance of any activity that seeks to, does or will exploit such game code or the game title for any commercial or profitable purpose, that thereby diminishes or dilutes the good will in or to such game and/or its trademark (in part or whole), or that otherwise disparages or casts a negative light on Atari Interactive in any form, any of its affiliates, and/or their respective intellectual property rights, business activities, or ownership of the aforementioned title proffered upon this agreement.


Personally, I thought the agreement was quite clear...but if anyone is worried, I would just ask their permission.
They were quite gracious in this agreement, and there would seem to be no reason for that to change. biggrin

AO

#4011654 - 09/19/14 02:41 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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I don't have a copy of the agreement and I asked Moogy to remove me from the Gen, do to my NDA. I still think it is best I stay out of the code work untill I have no NDA.

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I didn't know there was anything in the agreement that stated we could not offer free, full, modded downloads.


I define "full" as every file needed to fly against the AI or another human.

"Full" is the word I worry about. I have never seen an agreement that allows the full release of intellectual propery rights. My personal opinion is that "full" release of EAW diminishes or dilutes the trademark and intellectual property rights of the copyright owner of EAW. I have always been told that Atari is the owner of EAW as intellectual property.

I agree with AO, that it should be asked if Atari has an objection.

Jon,
Customer support is not who you need to talk to. Customer support is for the end user. You need to talk to someone in product development or legal (what ever wording Atari uses from those departments).


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#4011728 - 09/19/14 08:03 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Hi Allen.

I have no other contact to use. I'm using them as a starting point, and I hope I will be passed up the food chain, to someone who will have the agreement, and will be able to talk with the CEO about our case.

It would be much easier for Nate to have done this, has he had the direct email contacts, but I have nothing, so I'm working from the bottom up. smile


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#4011736 - 09/19/14 08:56 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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I sent a friends request and a message to the author of the article who is a Facebook member.
From his page I suspect that he may not use it frequently, and I have no reply at this juncture frown

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#4012122 - 09/20/14 05:25 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Jon,
I was wrong in my assumption for contact info. They make it hard, you were correct. But, given the amount of stock info they give out on there home page, I would believe the contact name or title should be in there. :P find a vp and rattle there secretary's email.

Tony,
I'm still working on that Polaris "tune-up" and have not had a chance to fire up EAW yet.


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#4015422 - 09/28/14 06:58 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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So what happened in the end? I still have my EAW CD, but is there a way to have a one step install from there?

And yes, I still lurk around the forum every week. Still no game gave me what EAW did back in the old times.

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#4015442 - 09/28/14 08:26 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Stratos]  
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Nothing yet Stratos.

I expect my email is working it's way up the food chain. wink


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#4015443 - 09/28/14 08:26 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Check post #4011133 September 18th in this thread and use this link which was posted at the end of it:

140 No CDF install
Before you try to run EAW you must use the DirSetExeManager with these selections and make sure you pick a planeset even though only one is available.




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#4015761 - 09/29/14 03:40 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Stratos]  
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Originally Posted By: Stratos
So what happened in the end? I still have my EAW CD, but is there a way to have a one step install from there?

And yes, I still lurk around the forum every week. Still no game gave me what EAW did back in the old times.


I apologise for being grumpy with you Jordi, and it may be a language problem, but as you post in English our responses are in English too.
You have a long track record in this forum of posting questions that people answer. The problem is that we never know if you have read the answers or have acted upon any advice given because you never respond.

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#4016191 - 09/30/14 09:05 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Man I usually respond, maybe I missed one or two, but saying I never respond is a bit too much. Anyway, thanks for the link. Apreciated.


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#4016195 - 09/30/14 09:41 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Good to hear Jordi- let me know how it goes with that install, and if it works OK I can PM you a link to the other scenarios such as SAW smile


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#4017376 - 10/02/14 10:23 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Hi Tony,

So am I right in assuming the 1-40 no Cd does not need the various files from the original game that you told us to load for the previous versions and remind me please , where the heck can I find my EAW.ini file - sorry getting old (though younger than you) and my memory is going. Please keep it simple as I am pretty brain dead at the moment.

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#4017494 - 10/03/14 08:04 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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#4020637 - 10/10/14 09:38 AM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Hi Jel! Got everything working at last! Wondering If you guys have a keyset for the 1.40 patch. And also will like to take a look to other scenarios, skins and terrains.

Thanks!!


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#4020846 - 10/10/14 07:04 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Jordi I have sent you a link in a PM to a page where you can get more ETO, DAW, SAW, SPAW and Moggy's IRAQ.

What do you mean be a "keyset"?

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#4020895 - 10/10/14 08:29 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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A list of a keyboard telling what keys are needed for control, things like starting engines, radiator...


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#4034650 - 11/11/14 04:32 PM Re: Legal EAW Full Game Downloads [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Hello,

Stratos, is this not programmable in the .ini file irregardless of version?

S!

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