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#3279665 - 04/26/11 02:42 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: exhausted]  
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Originally Posted By: mustang137
Ever since I upgraded my 940 to firmware 1.42, force feedback in IL2 was absolutely borked! No matter what I did the stick stayed rock hard. I also had problems with spiking and had the unit replaced once. In the end I sold it and bought myself a Warthog. Couldn't be happier.

Phill

I thought the force feedback 'strength' could be adjusted in the software.

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#3279679 - 04/26/11 03:43 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: employee24601]  
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I thought so too. Firmware 1.42 killed it! No matter what I changed in the Logitech software all forces in both x and y didn't change...in the end I unplugged the power supply to the stick.

Phill


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#3284106 - 05/01/11 02:23 PM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: exhausted]  
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I opened up mine this week to check for chord tension etc. I don't think I have ever seen worse quality. It just stinks cheap china crap all over. Un-"bolting" the guide didn't solve anything, the problem is probably chafing wires in on of the throttle handles. Need to open moar.

Anyone tried the Warthog? I want that HOTAS. Shame it doesn't have FFB though.

#3304963 - 05/27/11 02:18 PM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: Kimosabi]  
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Originally Posted By: Kimosabi
I opened up mine this week to check for chord tension etc. I don't think I have ever seen worse quality. It just stinks cheap china crap all over. Un-"bolting" the guide didn't solve anything, the problem is probably chafing wires in on of the throttle handles. Need to open moar.

Anyone tried the Warthog? I want that HOTAS. Shame it doesn't have FFB though.


it seems like there are reports of failed throttles in the Warthog as well. frown


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#3310712 - 06/04/11 06:33 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: exhausted]  
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Warthog as well? They gotta kick up the level of quality on PC gear man. The Warthog should not be having problems priced as it is.

#3310859 - 06/04/11 04:10 PM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: mustang137]  
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Originally Posted By: mustang137
I thought so too. Firmware 1.42 killed it! No matter what I changed in the Logitech software all forces in both x and y didn't change...in the end I unplugged the power supply to the stick.

Phill


Hello Phill.

I felt the same with Wings od Prey after firmware update. Dont worry. All you need to do is following:
Go to Logitech profiler > options > Global Profiler Settings > choose "Apply Persistent profile"
Configure that profile under > Options > Global Device settings.
My recomendations are:
Overall 110
Spring 45
Damper 30
Centering spring Unchecked. (You can check centering spring and set to 0% which add some friction without add centering spring)
Do the same for > Edit > Specific Game Settings
In game use approx middle strenght for FFB (40-50%)
Half of thoose steps are not important, but you need to be sure your changes do the job in game. I archieved even beter FFB feelings with Wings of Prey for now and for example DCS A10-C is simply stunning, even with latest patch.
It's possible that all people claiming strong FFB with constant force after FW 1.41 (1.42) didnt get into this point at all :/
Hope it helps.

EDIT: I can see you do not have G940 anymore smile But nevermind, could be handy for someone else at least I hope

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#3310862 - 06/04/11 04:12 PM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: exhausted]  
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BTW thanks for this very TIP. I replaced that screw by a holding strip and no more R1/R2 spiking problems for last 3 months.
I can say for now, everything works exelent. Just thinking about changing pots for trhrottle and it will be perfect smile


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#3311610 - 06/06/11 01:28 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: Hanzaleski]  
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Originally Posted By: Hanzaleski
Originally Posted By: mustang137
I thought so too. Firmware 1.42 killed it! No matter what I changed in the Logitech software all forces in both x and y didn't change...in the end I unplugged the power supply to the stick.

Phill


Hello Phill.

I felt the same with Wings od Prey after firmware update. Dont worry. All you need to do is following:
Go to Logitech profiler > options > Global Profiler Settings > choose "Apply Persistent profile"
Configure that profile under > Options > Global Device settings.
My recomendations are:
Overall 110
Spring 45
Damper 30
Centering spring Unchecked. (You can check centering spring and set to 0% which add some friction without add centering spring)
Do the same for > Edit > Specific Game Settings
In game use approx middle strenght for FFB (40-50%)
Half of thoose steps are not important, but you need to be sure your changes do the job in game. I archieved even beter FFB feelings with Wings of Prey for now and for example DCS A10-C is simply stunning, even with latest patch.
It's possible that all people claiming strong FFB with constant force after FW 1.41 (1.42) didnt get into this point at all :/
Hope it helps.

EDIT: I can see you do not have G940 anymore smile But nevermind, could be handy for someone else at least I hope


Thanks but no thanks. I sold the unit on ebay (got back what I paid) and purchased a warthog.....much, much better!


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#3311796 - 06/06/11 11:58 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: mustang137]  
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Originally Posted By: mustang137
Originally Posted By: Hanzaleski
Originally Posted By: mustang137
I thought so too. Firmware 1.42 killed it! No matter what I changed in the Logitech software all forces in both x and y didn't change...in the end I unplugged the power supply to the stick.

Phill


Hello Phill.

I felt the same with Wings od Prey after firmware update. Dont worry. All you need to do is following:
Go to Logitech profiler > options > Global Profiler Settings > choose "Apply Persistent profile"
Configure that profile under > Options > Global Device settings.
My recomendations are:
Overall 110
Spring 45
Damper 30
Centering spring Unchecked. (You can check centering spring and set to 0% which add some friction without add centering spring)
Do the same for > Edit > Specific Game Settings
In game use approx middle strenght for FFB (40-50%)
Half of thoose steps are not important, but you need to be sure your changes do the job in game. I archieved even beter FFB feelings with Wings of Prey for now and for example DCS A10-C is simply stunning, even with latest patch.
It's possible that all people claiming strong FFB with constant force after FW 1.41 (1.42) didnt get into this point at all :/
Hope it helps.

EDIT: I can see you do not have G940 anymore smile But nevermind, could be handy for someone else at least I hope


Thanks but no thanks. I sold the unit on ebay (got back what I paid) and purchased a warthog.....much, much better!


For modern jets, maybe. But nothing beats FFB for WWI and WWII prop plane combat action. Gotta have G940 for those eras.


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#3313397 - 06/08/11 01:18 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: exhausted]  
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My problems started back late April and I have been without the g940 since then. Finally I spat the dummy and the supplier is going to refund my money. It's not just the g940 I'm angry about but Logitech service in general. No more Logitech products for me.
Now of course I will be in the market for a GOOD replacement system. Flying ROF I would prefer FFB but in quest for quality I'll settle for less. Cost is not an issue so what do I buy?


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#3313748 - 06/08/11 02:20 PM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: R_Suppards]  
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Originally Posted By: R_Suppards
My problems started back late April and I have been without the g940 since then. Finally I spat the dummy and the supplier is going to refund my money. It's not just the g940 I'm angry about but Logitech service in general. No more Logitech products for me.
Now of course I will be in the market for a GOOD replacement system. Flying ROF I would prefer FFB but in quest for quality I'll settle for less. Cost is not an issue so what do I buy?


CH Products wink


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#3320433 - 06/16/11 08:10 PM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: exhausted]  
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Love CH stuff! Really great people to deal with too. I live about 20 miles from their office and I was able to get a replacement stick on the spot one time The big problem is they don't make a force feedback stick any longer. So you have to look someplace else. My G940 is not only having the R1, R2 problems but now when I move one throttle the other throttle moves a bit when you watch on the contoller window. Fortunately it's just set up mixture in ROF so it isn't to bad but it shouldn't happen. Went back to the MS FFB and a CH yoke for its' throttles and CH rudder pedals and bought a back up MS FFB online. Hopefully keep me going for a while. You need force feedback when flying the Camel. Maybe not need, but it sure does help!


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#3320588 - 06/17/11 12:45 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
Originally Posted By: R_Suppards
My problems started back late April and I have been without the g940 since then. Finally I spat the dummy and the supplier is going to refund my money. It's not just the g940 I'm angry about but Logitech service in general. No more Logitech products for me.
Now of course I will be in the market for a GOOD replacement system. Flying ROF I would prefer FFB but in quest for quality I'll settle for less. Cost is not an issue so what do I buy?


CH Products wink


Got my money back from Logitech and am TRYING to buy CH. Every retailer here in Oz is out of stock and Amazon won't sell me any. Finally traced one on Oz e-bay today and have sent a request to confirm availability.
Buying Simpeds from Germany. They might be expensive but they have a good rep and are quick to help.
Been away from ROF since end of April and it's killing me.


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#3323730 - 06/21/11 05:15 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: polisheagle1939]  
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Originally Posted By: polisheagle1939
Love CH stuff! Really great people to deal with too. I live about 20 miles from their office and I was able to get a replacement stick on the spot one time The big problem is they don't make a force feedback stick any longer. So you have to look someplace else. My G940 is not only having the R1, R2 problems but now when I move one throttle the other throttle moves a bit when you watch on the contoller window. Fortunately it's just set up mixture in ROF so it isn't to bad but it shouldn't happen. Went back to the MS FFB and a CH yoke for its' throttles and CH rudder pedals and bought a back up MS FFB online. Hopefully keep me going for a while. You need force feedback when flying the Camel. Maybe not need, but it sure does help!


The problem is the wires at the large connector that are flexing while moving the throttle. The fix is to secure the wiring better - however this requires removing the base of the throttle and that can void your warranty.

I just posted a G940 Mod write up and it includes a section showing you how to fix this problem. It's really just a matter of installing a zip tie.

CLICK HERE

#4029006 - 10/29/14 09:00 PM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: exhausted]  
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Hello dear Forum!
I bought an extension cable for this, and is working fine now.
I made in China and they made me produce 50, so I am selling most of them on ebay..
if interested, go and search for G940 throttle extension cable...

Cheers!

#4029177 - 10/30/14 04:22 AM Re: My G940 Throttle Has Turned Into Garbage [Re: Carlos]  
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Originally Posted By: Carlos
Hello dear Forum!
I bought an extension cable for this, and is working fine now.
I made in China and they made me produce 50, so I am selling most of them on ebay..
if interested, go and search for G940 throttle extension cable...

Cheers!


Man, where you like 2 or 3 years ago with these? biggrin


Just going to say that the flexing cable thing and its fix does get rid of that. Totally stupid that a 10 cent problem caused so much UGH with the G940.

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