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#4026606 - 10/24/14 02:22 PM That one horrible yet unforgettable game  
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We all have one. I know I do.

Today it looks like crap, but holy ghost- we played the living hell out of it.

We are talking CGA era games- for sake of argumentation let's keep in on the PC, no C64 or other machines.

Which one was your favourite?

Between mines in my first 13 MHz XT/PS2 I know there were:

- F19 Stealth figther



- Prince of Persia


- Wolfpack



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#4026608 - 10/24/14 02:24 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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How are you defining "horrible" here? Do you mean horrible graphics?


“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4026609 - 10/24/14 02:27 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
How are you defining "horrible" here? Do you mean horrible graphics?


Well CGA was hardly eye candy. smile
Yep, that's what I meant.


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#4026615 - 10/24/14 02:35 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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Of course for the time when those games were originally released, they didn't have horrible graphics but I get what your point is. smile


For CGA games only, my favorites were probably Jet Fighter, Gunship and F-19 Stealth Fighter.


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#4026626 - 10/24/14 02:48 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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Pretty sure the VALs and Kates were pink in CGA. biggrin


I refuse to buy a flight sim that I have no interest in playing, on the off chance that MAYBE someday they'll make the one I really want to play.

#4026637 - 10/24/14 03:03 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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Test Drive, the one game I remember playing on my Tandy 1000SX (CGA/dual 5-1/4s/no HD or math co-processor)...



++++++++++

I often wonder about code reuse in these games.

For example, I've noticed (besides having similar sounds) that the newer Fleet Defender uses the same technique as F-19/F-117 when reaching the edge of the map. Your forward motion suddenly stops, staying suspended in mid-air. Full power but you can't move forward. smile



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#4026641 - 10/24/14 03:05 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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#4026651 - 10/24/14 03:16 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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Originally Posted By: komemiute
We are talking CGA era games- for sake of argumentation let's keep in on the PC, no C64 or other machines.


Just FYI, my Tandy 1000SX booted from an MS-DOS 2 or 3 floppy so I believe it qualifies (also, it looked like an IBM PC).



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#4026654 - 10/24/14 03:17 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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What always amazed me back then was how much worse CGA seemed to be even compared to the 8-bit PCs of the day.

I always thought Chuck Yeager's fist flight sim did a pretty good job with CGA:


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#4026657 - 10/24/14 03:18 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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wow, such graphics, so detailed - and looks stunningly horrible - the pink reminds me of .....



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#4026680 - 10/24/14 03:57 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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LOL, Haggart! This weekend my wife and I are starting a half-bath re-model, later I'll show some before-and-after pics and you'll see why I'm mentioning it under your Pepto-Bismol post. smile

++++++++++

I'm still mesmerized by the original DOOM, the beginning of the first level when you walk into the control room. Looking closely at screens and panels it's just single colored pixels (for 320x200) but the illusion is that lots of information is being displayed.

Still impressive, but maybe I watch too much original Star Trek and Space: 1999.

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I'm still working on F-19 (when I'm not studying for school entrance exams) and I'm dreaming up another new retro game (besides SubWar 2050...damn I love this game!).

It'll be similar to Need For Speed SE (640x400 [vs. 480]) only my game will feature an '88 Fiero GT with available V8 upgrade. Other cars will be vintage 1980s (cool to see the CRX in NFS SE [AI only], even if it is purple). It'll also have an Alpine tape deck upgrade with auto-reverse and Dolby NR and a way to create your own MP3 mix tapes in-game.

And of course it'll be freeware like F-19, I don't want to get in all kinds of licensing troubles. If I get far enough for attempting commercial games I'll stick with sub/space combat imaginary themes.

Which reminds me I forgot about Stunt Driver, another CGA game I loved to play (or was that EGA?)...

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#4026718 - 10/24/14 05:19 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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Not just CGA, but threads here never last long before someone derails it. This is only a slight derail though wink

Have to sneak in North & South on the Amiga. Great multiplayer fun with buddies smile

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#4026722 - 10/24/14 05:24 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: semmern]  
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Originally Posted By: semmern
Not just CGA, but threads here never last long before someone derails it. This is only a slight derail though wink

Have to sneak in North & South on the Amiga. Great multiplayer fun with buddies smile

Chuck Yeager's Air Combat

The original Microprose B-17 game



LOL, no probs man,- I did mention awesome games...


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#4026730 - 10/24/14 05:34 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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I tolerated the graphics in Janes FA-18 long past.their expiration date because the gameplay was so rocking. Ditto fallout new Vegas, which looked crap even on day one release.

there's now a whole new generation of indie games that seem strange proud of their crap graphics.


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#4026735 - 10/24/14 05:41 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: No Name]  
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Originally Posted By: peppergomez
Ditto fallout new Vegas, which looked crap even on day one release.

Yeah, I got the same impression. The gameplay and story were great but those character models and animations were painful to look at.


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#4026750 - 10/24/14 06:14 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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Test Drive and Gunship were definitely miserable in the graphics dept and the performance also blew!




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#4026754 - 10/24/14 06:25 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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Boxed games then also tended to display the VGA graphics screens, so the poor folks with CGA and EGA monitors could only pine away with envy with what they got.

The original Wing Commander had misleading box art- even the VGA 'screenshots' on the box were much higher resolution and much more detailed than what VGA monitors were capable of displaying at the time. The color palette was also a bit different, outer space was rendered in a shade of blue rather than black on the box art (and without anywhere near the detailed background star field). To emphasize marketing stretching reality a bit, the box also falsely advertised "What you see is what you play!"


Box art:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/wing-commander/cover-art/gameCoverId,256976/

Actual screenshot:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/wing-commander/screenshots/gameShotId,21/

#4026759 - 10/24/14 06:29 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: komemiute]  
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M1 Tank Platoon (1989) on the Atari ST. I'm not sure I could describe the graphics as 'miserable' though as I had just upgraded from a Spectrum but the performance from the 8Mhz chip I do remember as quite 'jerky'.

One of my most played games of all time I think. I couldn't wait for my wife to go to bed so I could whip out my tank biggrin



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#4026762 - 10/24/14 06:36 PM Re: That one horrible yet unforgettable game [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted By: Chucky

One of my most played games of all time I think. I couldn't wait for my wife to go to bed so I could whip out my tank biggrin

Did your "tank" have the long-barrelled 8.8 cm KwK 36 L/56 or the short 37 mm M6?

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Lol,that depending on how excited I was to play biggrin


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