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#4024822 - 10/20/14 02:29 PM VVS ground campaign: anyone trying it and have you ever been attacked?  
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Have played about 20 SP missions in IL2 so far, am generally enjoying it, and am nearly done with second chapter. (I die a lot - usually collide with ground, target or trees! Still getting the hang of ground attack again after too much time in Hurricanes and Spitfires...)


I have not once had to worry about enemy fighters. Always, when we approach the target, the escorts outnumber the defending fighters about 2-1, and they are quickly destroyed. As Russian developers I am sure they like seeing the odds in their favour, but seems hardly historical to be able to attack Pitomnik and Gumrak and outnumber Luftwaffe defenders every time. Makes for kind of boring missions when you only ever have to worry about ground fire, because the odds are usually 8-2 (so far have not seen more than 2 109s at a target, never seen 190s in the campaign).


On the way to or from base, enemy fighters always seem to go for my escort, not my IL2s,


On the most recent mission I was overjoyed when a group of 109Gs ran across our path, while our escort was out of position about 2km behind us. 'Yes!' I thought. Some evasion and dogfighting at last! Nope, the 109Gs went straight over the top of us, and engaged the escort!


Bummer. I've read bomber SP mission reports where the bombers get attacked, but I guess some AI tuning is needed to make the AI fighters prioritise attacking the player's ground attack aircraft.


So, is anyone playing a VVS ground pounding campaign and have you:



- seen a different balance between VVS escorts and Luftwaffe defenders?

- ever been attacked by enemy fighters, yourself?

- ever had missions with more than 16 aircraft in the furball or is that the technical limit?


Just want to know if the challenge increases greatly, or will it stay more or less the same.


I guess I shouldn't expect much different from this post: http://forum.il2stur...ughts-about-it/


But it would be nice, just once in a while, to have to worry about enemy aircraft! Otherwise, it is not a very scary war.


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#4024844 - 10/20/14 03:11 PM Re: VVS ground campaign: anyone trying it and have you ever been attacked? [Re: HeinKill]  
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I've pretty much seen the same, which is fine with me since the only reason I'm going to be doing this is to unlock stuff for MP.

#4024919 - 10/20/14 05:41 PM Re: VVS ground campaign: anyone trying it and have you ever been attacked? [Re: HeinKill]  
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My rear gunner opened fire once and I thought that the AI might actually be working but it turned out to be two -09s flying by in a landing pattern. They had their Christmas lights on and everything. The AI is terrible in this game.


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#4024959 - 10/20/14 07:15 PM Re: VVS ground campaign: anyone trying it and have you ever been attacked? [Re: HeinKill]  
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Was attacked once on a ground attack mission so far. Caught me by surprise as until then every mission before (10 plus) had played out exactly the same.

The level bombing missions are pretty much the same in that I have been attacked once by a Lagg that made a single firing pass before scuttling off. An interesting note about bomber sorties is that they always seem to involve a cloud layer. Not sure if it is chance or just added to spice things up, otherwise grinding through these missions is the height of tedium.

#4025004 - 10/20/14 09:29 PM Re: VVS ground campaign: anyone trying it and have you ever been attacked? [Re: HeinKill]  
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Yep, been attacked four times by fighters in my IL2... managed to bail out once and force land twice, evaded once smile

#4025018 - 10/20/14 10:17 PM Re: VVS ground campaign: anyone trying it and have you ever been attacked? [Re: HeinKill]  
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I've done some ground attack in the Stuka and have seen my escort beaten off and my gunner go through what must have been at least one belt of ammunition although I don't think he hit anything. I got creamed just after hitting the locomotive on that one. I have seen it where the escorts seem to do a fighter sweep near the target or at least at the "Action Point" and knock down or run off all the Soviet fighters. I'd say I've seen variety except I haven't flown that many missions in the Stuka (I just keep selecting Chp I anyway as I didn't want to progress then lose it all on launch, but now that has changed I think I'll venture on and see what ChpII brings to the table).


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WOTR/BoF, Naval Action! also Run 8,
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