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#4024681 - 10/20/14 02:19 AM In the Heart of the Sea  
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#4024716 - 10/20/14 04:46 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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bit strange seeing a blue whale as "the demon" screwy


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#4024738 - 10/20/14 07:12 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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Thar she blows!

Looks like this could be a good one.


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#4024742 - 10/20/14 07:27 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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Nantucket Sleighride!

" Owen Coffin, to whom the song is dedicated, was
a young seaman on the Nantucket whaleship Essex"

It's not a blue whale, it's a sperm whale.

#4024751 - 10/20/14 08:26 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Meatsheild]  
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Originally Posted By: Meatsheild
bit strange seeing a blue whale as "the demon" screwy


A Sperm whale, actually.

#4024761 - 10/20/14 09:17 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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Holy cow, I had no idea. What a story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex_(whaleship)

#4024781 - 10/20/14 11:07 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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It's looks really good but I don't see mainstream audiences going to see this.


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#4024786 - 10/20/14 11:59 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: PV1]  
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Originally Posted By: PV1
Nantucket Sleighride!

" Owen Coffin, to whom the song is dedicated, was
a young seaman on the Nantucket whaleship Essex"

It's not a blue whale, it's a sperm whale.


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#4024791 - 10/20/14 12:32 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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I have the book "In The Heart of The Sea" which I presume is the basis for this film. In many ways much more impressive than the 'hyped up' version written by Melville as Moby Dick.

From memory, they have rather 'hyped up' the attack on the Essex - she was rammed, which sprung her planking and stunned the whale and she then foundered after which the whale left. I'll recheck the description later, but watching the trailer got my "Meh!" working.


#4024795 - 10/20/14 12:40 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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The Wiki entry above states that the whale attacked at least twice, and the final attack shoved the bow in.

More scary is what happened afterwards.

#4024806 - 10/20/14 01:32 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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Rechecked, and yes, it is significantly overhyped.

The whale approached the ship while the whaleboats were out hunting other whales. One of the whaleboat crews was still on board as their boat had been stoved in an earlier incident (most boats had been damaged or lost at that point ~ a factor that added to the hardship of the crew post-sinking).

The first sighting of the bull-whale was at around 100m, and it leisurely approached and struck in the beam. While it lay stunned, the boatsteerer on board the Essex contemplated harpooning the whale, but decided against it as the flukes were "dangerously close to the rudder".

The crew was occupied with manning the pumps (against suspected but at that time unconfirmed flooding), when the whale which had recovered and moved away turned again to attack head on. This time the attack was fast, and serious. The Essex, travelling at 3 kts, was stopped dead in the water in the impact, and then driven backwards with water coming over the transom. The whale had come in slightly off-centre and struck the hull, rather than the stem, which is a much more massive timber.

Immediately the water level reached over the lower decks, and the Essex began to go down by the head.

The whale departed, the Essex rolled to her beam ends, still essentially intact... and the crew began to work to save themselves.

Their first action was to cut away the masts, shrouds and standing rigging, which permitted the Essex to recover to a 45 degree list, after which they cut through the deck planking to recover hard-tack, freshwater and other stores. They couldn't carry all that could have been recovered, and had to leave some of the freshwater barrels behind. Soon after the ship finally foundered and the boats recovered a few swimming Galapagos Tortoises ('walking meat-stock') and hogs, before leaving the scene.

The *real* drama is the journey in open boats, making land-fall and then the decision to stay or leave...

Personally - I think the *real* story is "sexy enough" and the actionising is unneeded.

#4024808 - 10/20/14 01:38 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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I think it looks good even if they do embellish the story. Regardless that'd be a scary incident to be in.

Extra scary if your name be Jonah which mine is. biggrin


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#4024846 - 10/20/14 03:16 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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This is why all whales should be hunted and eaten!

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#4024887 - 10/20/14 04:48 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: EAF331 MadDog]  
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We need more seafaring movies, this ought to be good.

Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
This is why all whales should be hunted and eaten!

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#4024895 - 10/20/14 04:57 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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Everyone knows about the evils of "Big Whale Oil". biggrin


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#4024966 - 10/20/14 07:30 PM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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I'm rooting for the Whale


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I'm rooting for the Whale


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#4025454 - 10/22/14 02:21 AM Re: In the Heart of the Sea [Re: Coot]  
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Ya gotta love people. They're killing the whales, the whales are defending themselves...and the whales are the demons! Lol!
Arrrr! But I love me a good seafaring story, me maties. Might go see it.


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