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#4012933 - 09/22/14 01:50 PM Thinking of moving to Malta for six months...  
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Hi Guys

I know we don't have too many Maltese members here, but just on general terms always good feedback around.

Vienna right now is "Meh". My job is getting more "americanized" - more demand on our engineering teams, unrealistic deadlines, an an investor company basically starting to outsource a lot of stuff to India.
I've been single for almost two years now, a lot of decent girls, but not "the one" around. Actually there is "the one" but she got a BF, and while she clearly digs me she's not quite ready to ditch him for me.
Friends are getting married, have kids, stay at home. I'm 33 and a bit on the older side for the nightclub lifestyle - whereas daytime Austria hobbies (Mountains, Forrests, Museums) don't really thrill me any more.
I'm 33 now, so I don't want to waste another two years.


Malta on the other hand... I've been there five times in six years, and I always loved it. I love the sea, I love the boats, I love the food, there's amazingly beautiful women, lots of cute young tourist girls, and a few easygoing guys. Generally the society seems more open towards new people as Vienna will ever be.

It wouldn't be terribly difficult to quit my job, get my separation pay and live off savings for six months. My viennese apartment I might keep and place a friend to take care meanwhile. I could come back anytime before six months and collect six months unemployment before I need to work again. Or I could find a job in the gambling/betting hosting centres that thrive on Malta (I'm a Datacenter Admin/Network engineer) and stay there.

It all sounds rather exciting. I'm fairly sure a few people here have done similar things. What's your take?

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#4012940 - 09/22/14 01:55 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I've a very good German friend in Malta.

Feel like PM to see if he's able to help you out?


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#4012943 - 09/22/14 01:55 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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You can get unemployment after quitting a job, not getting laid off???

That's some liberal rules right there, getting it over here is like a job unto itself and it doesn't pay crap.


Anyway, I'm not the adventurous type, never quit a job without having another lined up, so I'll say in your shoes I'd stay where I was and be miserable long before I would do what you talk of! smile




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#4012945 - 09/22/14 01:57 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Right now it's all planning and decision time is only at Christmas - no point to move there during fall/winter.

But yes, as it comes closer I'll be happy for all the contacts I can get. Right now I guess I'm mostly looking into "how it feels" to go away for six months, if the possible heated argument with my parents will be worth it... what kind of things I need to be aware off (non-country specific).

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Jedi, I pay a #%&*$# of taxes every month, so the six months unemployment is like a paid-for insurance. I've never left a job without a new one and been continously employed since I was 20. The market in Austria seems decent, and my current one isn't paying exceptionally so the chance to get back into a similar pay level is definitly high.

#4012948 - 09/22/14 01:58 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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To me it seems pretty obvious that you are ready for a major paradigm shift. Honestly, I don't think I would ever have the courage to do something like what you mentioned but that's just me of course. smile

Have you done research yet on the economic factors in Malta such as overall tax burden and cost of living? I get the feeling that that cost of living in Malta is less compared to Austria. How's the job market in Malta now? Is unemployment high?


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#4012952 - 09/22/14 02:01 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
To me it seems pretty obvious that you are ready for a major paradigm shift.


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#4012961 - 09/22/14 02:18 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Panzer, I met two expats (one Austrian just moved down there himself) on the plane as I flew done in August, and another Expat living on a boat there was my host.

Tax is low, cost of living is comparable or less, so according to my countryman if I had enough skill to land a well-paying job in Vienna I will have a similar living standard down there.

Job Market for IT/Network/Datacenter stuff is exploding due to the online casino boom, there are even specific websites for that kind of jobs that I got recommended. Only downside is that they have some restrictions even inside EU, mostly along the lines of foreigners not able to take up jobs where enough local labor is available. Doesn't apply that much to the tech sector.

I'm fairly sure I could also make some kind of living in a more touristy employment, because there's a lot of German speaking tourists down there.

I don't really want to decide on work there immediatly after moving, I guess what I need to find out is if two or three months of the same will still have me as happy as during my vacations. Being in country and connecting with people from the industry it shouldn't be too terrible hard to get into interviews.

#4012963 - 09/22/14 02:23 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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#4012964 - 09/22/14 02:25 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Personally for me, my main concern would be the over-reliance of Malta's economy on the casino/gambling industry. To me it seems that it's a very cyclical industry that is prone to having financial bubbles and then hard collapses.

I do think though that giving Malta a 2 or 3 month "trial period" is a good idea. smile


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#4013004 - 09/22/14 03:50 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Like I said, it would be like a three-month trial, then either to add another three months vacation, or start to look for something more permanent.

Six months away from Vienna might even make me appreciate stuff around here for what it has.

On a sad note, that girl I mentioned above just called me. We're both really, really into each other, but she's still also really, really into her boyfriend and wants to reduce our contact to a minimum in order to not risk any escalation. It's a crazy situation, makes me want to get on an airplane this evening...

#4013023 - 09/22/14 04:32 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Best option seems to be finding a job there, then quit, put that pay away as a nest egg, possibly keep your current place on the side until you decide to commit to Malta.
Low risk, no odd gaps on your resume, enjoy the fresh start.

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#4013078 - 09/22/14 06:35 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I'm a pretty low-risk person, so if I were in your position I'd probably do what RK suggested. I know that this course probably isn't in your plan though, but I'm a pretty insecure fellow when it comes to employment.

I would suggest having a plan B; the old "hope for the best, plan for the worst", kind of thing.

#4013107 - 09/22/14 07:44 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Same here, low risk when it comes to careers. I'd certainly line something up and take the dive, but after figuring out if that's really where I want to live. Sounds like it's time for a longer vacation biggrin


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#4013121 - 09/22/14 08:14 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Will you be learning Maltese if you end up living there long term?


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#4013133 - 09/22/14 08:37 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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If long term, then yes, I'd be curious about the language.

The thing is, if I take a job there, I'll not be really able to focus on what I actually want. I'm not 100% happy in the tech field, so by going straight to another tech job, it just makes it the same life in a different place. It would also make it hard to get a good start, like, might delay my departure - or force me to leave earlier - than would be good from the weather and climate.

#4013159 - 09/22/14 09:22 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Malta on the other hand... I've been there five times in six years, and I always loved it. I love the sea, I love the boats, I love the food, there's amazingly beautiful women, lots of cute young tourist girls, and a few easygoing guys. Generally the society seems more open towards new people as Vienna will ever be.


Dude, I am moving to Malta after that spiel smile

If you are confident in your skills and the job market for those in Austria if you do decide to come back I say go for your extended vacation / trial run in Malta.


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#4013168 - 09/22/14 09:56 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I haven't mentioned the massively interesting Crusades and WW2 History yet, have I? wink

I'll not have a 100% Guarantee for a new job, obviously, but I can live okay on six months unemployment, and worst case take up half of my parent's house (separate entrances and privacy of course) afterwards to really cut down living costs. An option they might actually appreciate because they would enjoy the help.

So there's no realistic way I would end up jobless/totally broke even if the trip goes badly.

#4013169 - 09/22/14 09:56 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I've always left the country with a job in hand. So in that respect my situation differed from yours now. With that said, I have NEVER regretted dropping everything and moving. It's cleansing. You learn more about yourself and what it is you really want from the rest of your life. Women with bf's will drop the bf in a heartbeat if they see greener pastures with another guy. Any bs about "just not the right time..." is just that: BS. For women, having another person out there that they know is longing for them is like crack. They can't get enough. But it likely will never go further. I'm not saying it CANNOT happen. I'm only sharing observations of friends and my own experiences. If that really is your situation then that alone is sufficient reason to pack your bags. There's a TED Talk about losing everything. If I had something other than an iPhone i'd search and post a link. But the takeaway was that loss and traumatic change almost never have the lasting negative affects that we fear. So follow your heart but do so intelligently.

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Why settle for Malta?



#4013178 - 09/22/14 10:24 PM Re: Thinking of moving to Malta for six months... [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Whoa, living on a boat?
That was my dream 20 years ago, but the wife put the skids on that.
I really wanted a 44' Gulfstar ketch. 'REALLY' wanted.
Like dreamed about it for 10 years before I retired.
She didn't 'notify' that she would NOT live on a boat, until a few months before I retired.
So I made my choice.
Go for it sir.

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