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#4009714 - 09/14/14 04:37 PM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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The day the world fell down…9-11 was a nuclear attack
VT 9-11 email letter sent to 100,000 state/local officials

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/11/the-day-the-world-fell-down-9-11-was-a-nuclear-attack/


… by Jim W. Dean, VT Editor … with the loyal Americans who contributed
…for the American people and the world


The bastards that really did 9-11 threw America off the roof that day. The least we can do is return the favor.

Veterans Today has been going public with the official US 2003 classified report on the Ground Zero attack being a nuclear event, quickly confirmed by a mass spectrometry analysis of the dust samples.

This testing has been done for decades after big explosion events by most of the major country Intel agencies as most of them have been mini-nuke terror attacks.

What makes our material so incredible is the IAEA investigators confirmed the nuclear bombing history and our own Sandia labs had designed the bombs that were supposed to be used to defend us. They are very angry people.

Veterans Today, is an Intelligence platform covering three generations of civilian and military professionals spanning the early Cold War days to the present counter-terrorism work that some of our board members are currently engaged.

Our pursuit of the real 9-11 culprits has paid off just in time for the upcoming anniversary. After years of watching our efforts from a distance we were leaked from a foreign government source the official Sandia nuclear labs 2003, 9-11 report with extensive details describing how the Ground Zero buildings were brought down with mini-nuclear weapons.

We had eliminated by our own efforts all other contending theories as physically not possible. We had many clues like the molten granite under the towers, which only the heat from a nuclear blast could have done, and later the burst radiation and nuclear particle ingestion illness began showing up, and being covered up with purposeful misdiagnosis.

Despite the experts we had at VT, some with nuclear backgrounds, we additionally put the word out among our old boy networks that we needed confirmation that we were not being set up with an elaborate hoax by our many enemies. We get fed bogus stories weekly. Much to our surprise confirmation came in from the best sources that exist, from the IAEA nuclear inspector people and the bomb designers at Sandia who had written the report.

The 9-11 commission wa never interested in the molten pools of granite under the towers. Photo from IAEA inspector.

The 9-11 commission was never interested in the molten pools of granite under the towers. Photo from IAEA inspector.

These people not only confirmed that the report was real, but that worse, the nuclear fingerprints found in the dust samples showed that warhead material had been made here.

It appears our mothballed Davy Crockett tactical nukes had been spirited out the back door via an inventory accounting system that was designed for quietly removing warhead material.

The inventory had gone to Israel after the Dimona accident had wrecked their ability to produce weapons grade material, but they had the expertise to re-manufacture the Davy Crockett’s into modern tactical nuclear weapons.

The IAEA investigators confirmed what we had already known, that mini nukes had been used for some time in many of the large bombing terror attacks, which eliminated the patsy terror groups as the perps because only a short list of major countries had the necessary skills to execute them.

Every time there has been a major explosion anywhere, all the top Intel agencies have been sending in evaluation teams to get dust sample to do a routine mass spectrometry test on for the tell tale nuclear residue always found, including the fingerprint of the particular one used to compare to their database of previous explosions.

Here is a partial list of the false flag suicide truck bombings that were mini-nukes. This has been an ongoing terror campaign that not only was nothing done to put the genie back into the bottle, but the America people and the world were never told anything about it, which made it easier for these to continue.

The barracks of the U.S. Marines and French paratroopers in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983.

The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma. 1995.

The Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan in 1995.

The Khobar Towers in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia in 1996.

The American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998.

The British Consulate in Istanbul, Turkey.

The World Trade Center September 11, 2001.

The Sari night club in Bali in 2002.

The UN Office in Baghdad, Iraq in 2003.

The Australian Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia in 2004.

In the nuclear assassination of the former Lebanese Prime-Minister. Planted in the sewer pipe. Rafik Hariri in Beirut in 2005.

The police school bombing in Algeria on 19 of August 2008.

And many more unreported.

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Mothballed Davy Crockett nukes went to Israel to use the warhead material in updated mini-nukes that were used in terror bombings

Mothballed Davy Crockett nukes went to Israel to use the warhead material in updated mini-nukes that were used in terror bombings

The US has had a security penetration, the biggest in world history, and it was classified to protect those responsible for the illegal transfers to Israel, and those after them thinking that the American people finding out might create a revolution here.

But there was another group in the intelligence and security field who felt just the opposite, that hiding what had happened and allowing the real perpetrators to walk around above ground, with still a large inventory of these weapons left us literally under the gun.

The other problem was the long running stand down in America regarding any Israeli espionage prosecutions, due not only for the political embarrassment, but also because of the high ranking Americans in all branches of our government who have assisted them for many years.

The stand down on the prosecution was actually a recruiting tool for them, showing that they were untouchable.

Mass media has so far put a black out on our entire series of articles. We have not had a single call from any of them wanting to know more. Fear, is the underlying cause in many cases, because we are talking about serial mass murderers here, who have nothing to lose by killing a few more. But not all are afraid. We will play the hand we have been dealt, but we cannot see this thing through to a successful resolution without your help.

We are asking you to work with us in hunting these people down and securing their remaining weapons before they can be used. The first place to start is a mass public demand that the Sandia Labs report be made public and all the classified espionage files on Israel that our FBI friends tell us will suffice to tell the whole story also be released.

We will never be safe without facing up to and cleaning up this horrific part of our history. If we do nothing we become aiders and abettors of these mass murderers. No one here at Veterans Today will ever do that, no matter what the risk or the costs. It is time to hit the reset button on 9-11.

Jim W. Dean, Veterans Today …Managing editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/staff-writers http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/11/the-day-the-world-fell-down-9-11-was-a-nuclear-attack/


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#4009836 - 09/14/14 10:41 PM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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Oh yes, Veterans Today, the biggest bunch of loony bin conspiracy theorists. rolleyes

#4010327 - 09/16/14 01:19 AM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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#4010404 - 09/16/14 11:40 AM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: Ajay]  
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#4012592 - 09/21/14 04:09 PM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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#4012786 - 09/22/14 02:21 AM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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#4012860 - 09/22/14 11:24 AM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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well, we do drive the products from the Japanese and Germans, after WWII. We drive Japanese and German cars, that were building the machines that drove the war. The same companies who built the war machines, by choice. So,, they did prosper and continue, with our blessing. Makes it sounds like we are rewarding them.

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#4014771 - 09/26/14 04:47 PM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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The real conspiracy is here...apparently...

THE $1-BILLION-A-YEAR RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY YOU HAVEN’T HEARD OF
by Jay Michaelson

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...t-heard-of.html

Have you heard of the $1,750-per-person “Gathering,” which starts Thursday in Orlando, Florida?

Probably not. But if you’re female, gay, non-Christian, or otherwise interested in the separation of church and state, your life has been affected by it.


The Gathering is a conference of hard-right Christian organizations and, perhaps more important, funders. Most of them are not household names, at least if your household isn’t evangelical. But that’s the point: The Gathering is a hub of Christian Right organizing, and the people in attendance have led the campaigns to privatize public schools, redefine “religious liberty” (as in the Hobby Lobby case), fight same-sex marriage, fight evolution, and, well, you know the rest. They’re probably behind that, too.

Featured speakers have included many of the usual suspects: Alliance Defending Freedom President and CEO Alan Sears (2013), Focus on the Family President Jim Daly (2011), and Family Research Council head Tony Perkins (2006). This year, however, they are joined by David Brooks of The New York Times and Michael Gerson of The Washington Post. What’s going on? Has The Gathering gone mainstream?

Hardly, says Bruce Wilson, director of the advocacy group Truth Wins Out’s Center Against Religious Extremism and a leading researcher on The Gathering. The selection of this year’s speakers, he says, is just the latest in a long line of misdirections and canards.

To be sure, untangling webs of funders, organizations, and campaigns can often feel like conspiracy-mongering. Your brain begins to resemble one of those bulletin boards from A Beautiful Mind or Se7en, full of paranoid-seeming Post-Its and strings. Wilson has been untangling these webs for years, and sometimes it shows. His many publications and his emails to me are long-winded, occasionally exaggerated, and sometimes hard to follow.

But often he’s dead on. And beneath the hyperbole, The Gathering is as close to a “vast right-wing conspiracy” as you’re likely to find. So with this year’s conference about to get under way, Wilson gave The Daily Beast an exclusive interview over email—heavily redacted here—about this shadowy, powerful network of hard-right funders.


Let’s start with the basics. What is The Gathering?

The Gathering is an annual event at which many of the wealthiest conservative to hard-right evangelical philanthropists in America—representatives of the families DeVos, Coors, Prince, Green, Maclellan, Ahmanson, Friess, plus top leaders of the National Christian Foundation—meet with evangelical innovators with fresh ideas on how to evangelize the globe. The Gathering promotes “family values” agenda: opposition to gay rights and reproductive rights, for example, and also a global vision that involves the eventual eradication of all competing belief systems that might compete with The Gathering’s hard-right version of Christianity. Last year, for example, The Gathering 2013 brought together key funders, litigants, and plaintiffs of the Hobby Lobby case, including three generations of the Green family.

The Gathering was conceived in 1985 by a small band of friends at the Arlington, Virginia, retreat center known as The Cedars, which is run by the evangelical network that hosts the annual National Prayer Breakfast. This stealthy network is known as The Family or The Fellowship. Jeff Sharlet’s book The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power described it in great detail.

How much money are we talking about here?

The evangelical right financial dynasties and foundations that meet each year at The Gathering dispense upwards of $1 billion a year in grants. But even that is overshadowed by the bigger sums that The Family and The Gathering have managed to route from the federal and state government to fund their movement via the Faith-Based Initiative program, USAID, PEPFAR and other multibillion-dollar programs.

You mentioned the National Christian Foundation. I bet most of our readers haven’t heard of that, either. Can you tell us a bit about it?

The NCF was created, back in 1982 or so, to maximize hard right-wing evangelical Christian philanthropic giving. It was so novel and complex, the architects got a special ruling from the IRS, to make sure it was legal. The NCF has multiple overlapping legal entities and holding companies, but at the core is a huge donor-advised fund. The NCF is now the 12th biggest charitable foundation in America that raises money from private sources.

“The story of the politicized religious right is one of the biggest untold stories of our time.”
Since its founding, the NCF has given away over $4.3 billion, $2.5 billion of it in the last three years. The NCF gave away $601,841,675 in 2012—and is estimated to have given out $670 million in 2013.

One reason the NCF, a donor-advised fund, has been so successful is that it ensures anonymity for its philanthropists. Many of these individuals may fear a backlash, given the controversial causes that they support.

But we do know about the NCF’s leadership. Two of the NCF co-founders were tied to Campus Crusade for Christ, and the late Larry Burkett, a NCF co-founder, was also one of the co-founders of the Alliance Defense Fund/Alliance Defending Freedom, now the religious right’s preeminent umbrella legal defense fund. NCF’s other co-founder, Atlanta tax lawyer Terrence Parker, sits on the board of directors of the Family Research Council, and also The Gathering Foundation, which puts on The Gathering.

From 2001-12, the NCF gave $163,384,998 to leading anti-LGBT organizations. These include Focus on the Family, the Family Research Council, the American Family Association, the Alliance Defending Freedom (formerly Alliance Defense Fund), Campus Crusade for Christ (aka CRU), the National Organization for Marriage, and the Alliance for Marriage. They fund ex-gay ministries like Exodus International, exporters of homophobia like Advocates International, you name it.

The NCF is just getting started, though. The Green family—who were at The Gathering in 2008 and 2013—have said they intend to leave much of their fortune to it. And in 2009, Hobby Lobby-related contributions were the No. 1 source of NCF funding (about $54 million), which we know because Eli Clifton, funded by The Nation Institute, somehow got hold of an NCF 2009 990 Schedule B form, which shows NCF’s top funders that year (Hobby Lobby was No. 1, Maclellan Foundation No. 2).

On another note, Chick-fil-A’s VP and CFO, James “Buck” McCabe, is on the board of the NCF, and in 1999 no less than three of Chick-fil-A’s top leaders spoke at The Gathering (S. Truett Cathy, Dan Cathy, and Don “Bubba” Cathy).

Having worked in philanthropy myself, I can say that these figures are astounding. The leading private funder of LGBT issues gives out about $16 million a year. Which other funders will be there?

Other major players include the John Templeton Foundation ($104,863,836 in 2012 grants), the Barnaby Foundation ($39,939,489), the Christian Community Foundation (an NCF “spinoff”), and the family foundations of the DeVos families (including Rich DeVos, one of the original funders of the Christian Right), Howard & Roberta Ahmanson (operating as Fieldstead & Company—and among the most notorious right-wing funders in America), Adolph Coors, and many others.

Interestingly, some more secular right-wing funders—Scaife, Olin, Bradley—are not known to attend The Gathering.

And yet The Gathering also has some mainstream figures on the schedule, including David Brooks of The New York Times and Michael Gerson of The Washington Post.

Well, there are two possibilities. One, Brooks knows a bit about the underlying politics of The Gathering but doesn’t care, which is to say he’s on board with that political agenda to the extent he’s willing to lend his reputation to the event. Two, he’s relatively clueless. He’s been conned. Which would raise questions about his political acumen.

I’m very suspicious that Brooks’ planned appearance at The Gathering was an outgrowth of his heavy participation in the Faith Angle Forum of frequent The Gathering participant Michael Cromartie, who advises elite secular media on the culture wars, which he is also helping to wage. In 2008 Cromartie talked to The Gathering about the need to “infiltrate” secular media. His Faith Angle Forum was created to bring together elite journalists who covered religion and politics with “experts.” And experts they are—but they’re all picked by Cromartie, and many of them have been speakers at The Gathering, as well.

A lot of these issues are pretty unsurprising: fight the gays, fight abortion. But your research also shows that these Christian Right funders are behind a lot of climate denial.

Yup. Over the last decade, he NCF has pumped over $140 million into groups that oppose action to curb climate change and portray concern over global warming as part of a satanic conspiracy to impose a tyrannical “One World Order” or “New World Order.”

Michael Cromartie, whom I just mentioned, will be one of the presenters at The Gathering 2014. He is a signatory to the positions of the Cornwall Alliance, a rump religious coalition opposing action to curb human-caused climate change. The Cornwall Alliance was itself masterminded by E. Calvin Beisner, who helped coin many of the most popular arguments of the global warming denialist/inaction crowd, in a late 1980s-early 1990s book series project led and financed by Howard Ahmanson and his Fieldstead & Co.

Most of the major players in the Christian Right signed the Cornwell Alliance papers. The Ethics and Public Policy Center (NCF gave it $115,000 over 1- years), Chuck Colson’s Prison Fellowship ($12,768,852), Focus on the Family ($44,754,804), Campus Crusade for Christ ($55,233,717), Family Research Council ($17,707,343), Concerned Women for America ($160,163), American Family Association ($2,024,033), and others.

This is exhausting, depressing stuff. What keeps you going?

First, endless exposure to the politicized religious right renders the disturbing nature of the subject banal. So at one level, it becomes just another job specialization. Most days, I might as well be studying some obscure species of sea snail.

But I think the story of the politicized religious right is one of the biggest untold stories of our time. It’s the story of how a covert political movement, driven by a well-organized, -funded, and committed minority, has perturbed the political arc of the biggest, wealthiest, and most powerful nation on Earth—and how it has subverted the national dialogue.

I'm annoyed at the basic dishonesty of religio/political phenomena such as The Gathering that lay claim to the Christian tradition but ignore its underlying mandate of truth-telling. The semi-covert movement represented by The Gathering may not be able to conquer America and its “7 mountains” (Loren Cunningham, co-originator of the 7M motivational mantra, addressed The Gathering in 2001), but it nonetheless exerts considerable force on international politics, and not in an especially honest manner.

The world needs better. There are many problems to address. And I think world religions can become part of the solutions that guide us toward a better outcome in coming decades, but only insofar as they put aside covert, religious supremacist agendas and work for the common good of all. And workable solutions will require honesty—not currently a hallmark of The Gathering.


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Snowden Reveals First Ever Public Disclosure Of Secret Black Budget Programs

"Given the mixture of a treasure chest of government money, and private connections, the likelihood exists that six decades later there is a clandestine group that possesses:

Technology that is vastly superior to that of the “mainstream” world.

The ability to explore areas of our world and surroundings presently unavailable to the rest of us.

Scientific and cosmological understandings that give them greater insights into the nature of our world

A significant “built off the grid” infrastructure, partially underground, that affords them a high degree of secrecy and independence of action

This might well qualify them as a separate civilization – one that has broken away from our own, in effect, a breakaway civilization. Still interacting with our own, its members probably move back and forth between the official reality of what we are supposed to believe, and the other reality which encompasses new truths and challenges."


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#4015325 - 09/28/14 01:09 AM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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#4017721 - 10/03/14 08:56 PM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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Love the review

I think I read the same story in 2000AD back in 1981 - so it must be true

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#4350533 - 04/11/17 08:50 PM Re: Book Review: The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs [Re: HeinKill]  
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I'm curious if anyone feels this book is more relevant today .

heres a good vid
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