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#4003843 - 09/02/14 02:40 AM 100% Accurate American  
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A month ago I contact American Airlines requesting any help they could provide in producing a entirely accurate reproduction of their colors currently in use. Needless to say, I didn't expect them to return my email, but they did. They provided the hex codes, RGB's, samples and even aircraft schematics detailing where the 20 different colors (yeah, 20!) are painted. I had to sign a Non-disclosure Agreement stating that I would never reveal or provide any of the materials in a public manner, something I was wary of to begin with.

Needless to say, this is the most in-depth and time consuming paint I've ever done.

Refer here - http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/84615-100-accurate-american-repaint/













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#4003866 - 09/02/14 05:29 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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I'd say I'm impressed, but that would be a massive understatement. That is amazing!


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#4003888 - 09/02/14 07:33 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Nicely done.


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#4003900 - 09/02/14 09:05 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Great work, looks fantastic! thumbsup

#4003964 - 09/02/14 01:43 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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As someone who was with American for 37 years, that paint scheme has been hard to get used to. But you did an incredible job on it. I'm very surprised that they actually got back to you on that.


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#4004001 - 09/02/14 03:25 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Stunning work! A TOTAL labor of love!


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#4004030 - 09/02/14 04:43 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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A cracking bit of work there! Also nice to hear that some big companies will still respond to requests like yours.

#4004154 - 09/02/14 10:12 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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#4004225 - 09/03/14 01:24 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Wow! Looks great, DetCord!


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#4004562 - 09/03/14 06:43 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Thanks for the kind words gents.

I am running into issues. Painting certain layers in this paint-kit doesn't have the desired effect most of the time. Out of all the addons I've ever done paints for, this paint-kit has to be the worst.



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#4004800 - 09/04/14 03:15 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Well, that didn't take long...

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/450704-100-accurate-american-repaint/

EDIT- It's not coming up. Just go to the The Paint Shop - The Aircraft Painter's Forum and you'll see the topic.

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#4004863 - 09/04/14 08:12 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Unfortunately trolls are almost everywhere - and that's why I like SimHQ so much. Good moderation.

As my dear mother always used to say, "if anyone can do better, let him/her go ahead!"


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There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
#4004895 - 09/04/14 10:38 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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For what it's worth, Avsim just banned the guy that trolled you.
Great job! What are you using for a paint program? Adobe Paint?

#4005024 - 09/04/14 04:25 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: Fitz505]  
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Originally Posted By: Legend
Unfortunately trolls are almost everywhere - and that's why I like SimHQ so much. Good moderation.

As my dear mother always used to say, "if anyone can do better, let him/her go ahead!"


I typically don't go there and stick to SimHQ, but I thought some might be interested in it. The only positive the AVSIM is that it's much more populated in the civil aviation side of the house than here.

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For what it's worth, Avsim just banned the guy that trolled you.
Great job! What are you using for a paint program? Adobe Paint?


Well I'm not going back so it really doesn't matter so it really doesn't matter at this point mate.

Moving on...

Thought I'd post this progress report (with images) so everyone could see why it's taking so damned long.

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/84615-100-accurate-american-repaint/?p=606877


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#4005029 - 09/04/14 04:33 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted By: Pooch
As someone who was with American for 37 years, that paint scheme has been hard to get used to. But you did an incredible job on it. I'm very surprised that they actually got back to you on that.



As am I.

They provided PDF paint schematics (A320/737/777) that are absolutely massive in size. I mean the zoom level goes down to around 8000x6000+. The detail is amazing.


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#4005501 - 09/05/14 04:15 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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I tried making a skin for a plane once. It looked like yesterdays lunch. That was in EAW I cant imagine trying it now as complicated as todays sims are. You have my greatest respect.


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#4005706 - 09/05/14 09:36 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Outstanding job sir....and don't let the noobs get to you at Avsim.

by the way. Flightsim.com has a higher enthusiast count.

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/forum.php?s=7f8a0643ab791c644aafa48240be20c9

#4006045 - 09/06/14 07:29 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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You are bloody lucky.

Very, very happy to watch you make the most of this opportunity.

Christmas came early for you, didn't it? santa

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#4006590 - 09/08/14 06:20 AM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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My wife will approve. She works for USAirways American. biggrin

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#4007930 - 09/10/14 06:45 PM Re: 100% Accurate American [Re: DetCord]  
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Anyone with P3D V2 with AXE willing to do a test run?


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